Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

Sadly, no. That WOULD have been nice.

I use this:

Weight Factor is the only real WAG there, the rest follow the formula you can derive from the rest of the entries in the table. NO idea what they did for weight. I do follow what looks like a pattern for Weight Factor, but I couldnt tell you what formula they used.

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

That was a book suggestion. Should that suggestion ever hypothetically be enacted upon, you can just... not buy that book. Just like you can skip buying Spaceships books because they aren't very helpful for DF, should you so choose.

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

I'd wish we see some "bundled" Dungeon Fantasy Volumes in the future, integrating the available material as single books. Hopefully available as Soft- or Hardcover but compiled as single PDF's to print out your own DF "books" would be also great.

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

I play the Barbarian in CousinX's awesome but on-hiatus high-power DF game.

On the subject of the Outdoorsman Talent, you really need to take into consideration that you're getting a bonus to every single Survival specialty, and there are quite a few of them in most settings. No matter where the GM sends us (and he throws a diverse array of environmental hazards at us, because I spent a lot of points on dealing with that and that's what good GMs do), I'm the point man when it comes to dealing with the local climate, flora, and fauna, which are usually quite hazardous. Sure most outdoor skills are Per-based, and Per costs half as much as Outdoorsman, but in this game, I started off with both maxed out at +4 for a total of +8 on all of that stuff. Also, you get the learning time reduction and reaction bonus.

Plus I'm the HULK SMASH guy in the party, and the GM let Barbarians only buy Bulletproof Nudity. It's a pretty fun gig if you do it right, overall.

ETA RE: Leprechaun Barbarians: I just let the one in my all-leprechaun campaign (a colossus among leprechauns at a towering 3' tall, who goes by, "Curlagh O'Hurlagh"), buy enough levels of the Huge Weapons perk to let him use an SM 0 maul. It's a lot easier and funnier that way.

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

No that's more or less what I think of. However I also think of, "warrior from a non-urbanized culture where government is in small group patterns based on kinship or prowess and whose military outlook was founded in feuding and banditry rather then bureaucratized campaigning."

What I definitely do not think of is, "fantastically bestial culture where men go without shirts to show their muscles and women always show off their midriff wherever they go and both have a culture whose entire existence is as fanservice for decadent urbanists with exceedingly bad taste."

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

They're more of a power fantasy for decadent urbanists with exceedingly poor physical condition. *waves*

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Not necessarily incompatible.

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

Context driven, for me. On an RPG site like this with Dungeon Fantasy in the title, "barbarian warrior" means "Conan the Barbarian" to me.

In real life, or just a more realistic setting, "barbarian" just means outsider in a vaguely insulting manner, so a Roman Legionnaire would be a barbarian warrior to the Chinese.

Crom! RAWRRGG!

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Denizens: Barbarians
 

Well, in real life I don't think all cultures are equal. For one thing, then the cultural custom of saying barbarian just means outsider is inferior to the cultural custom of saying one group can be more barbarous then another. Which is circular logic.

However I definitely do not think barbarian means "bestial culture composed of shirtless males and midriff-exposed females existing to titilate absurd urbanists."

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I honestly can't parse this. What?

If you put Dungeon Fantasy infront of it, I certainly do, or some variation. Burly people in animal hides or light armor, horses or exotic beasts, weapons ranging from stone to steel. It's a wide range.

Without that DF, anyone can call anyone barbarians, heck two cultures could each regard the other as barbarians and themselves as paragons of civilization, since the definitions of both barbarism and civilization are arbitrary and self-serving.