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orangesjull 09-02-2015 02:44 PM

when you force another player
 
In munckin star for example there are the class "space explorer "

Well...i am space explorer and launch all my hand (3 cards min) for force to player A to help me.

Ok, the player A has in his hand cards for remove the monster, he can do it?

Can add other monster the player A if is forced to help me?

And other question. The player A and me do 22 points, the monster is level 18 and we win for 4 points.

The player B launch +5 to the monster. So player A and me lost for 1 point.

I can,t do anymore, but player A has in his hand -5 to monster. But in his hand!!!

Is forced the player A launch this card from his hand?

Help please we had a disccusion of this

....Munchkinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!! aghhh xd

Devin Lewis 09-02-2015 02:52 PM

Re: when you force another player
 
A player you have forced into combat is under no obligation to actively help you win. It is quite Munchkinly to attempt to sabotage a combat you find yourself pulled into.

orangesjull 09-02-2015 03:05 PM

Re: when you force another player
 
So...the skill for force to other player to win the combat has no logic.

If you force to get help and the player forced up or remove to the monster....where is the power of this skill?

Devin Lewis 09-02-2015 03:15 PM

Re: when you force another player
 
Because you can't use that ability to win the game in most cases, if they use a really powerful card to make you lose combat then it's a card you don't have to worry about later. Also, if you have to Run Away, so do they. So they have to weigh sabotaging the combat against the potential downside of the Bad Stuff.

It's still a very useful ability, especially early on in a game. Not everyone is going to be able to stop you from winning the combat, after all.

orangesjull 09-03-2015 06:22 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
The Ranger Explorer can win the party using this power. The Bard for example says that no is possible. In the Explorer says " you can force to get help to other player if this help is the difference with to win or to lose. .." So if i need points of other player for kill monster and i pay with cards from hand the other player add other monster or remove it, can i get again the cards ro my hand? Cause the skill didnt work. .

And thanks a lot for help me Denin but iam still with dudes cause in the card says " ...if this help is the difference with to win or to lose"

griffinsclaw 09-03-2015 06:54 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
if his current combat bonus would make the difference between losing and winning (his level+the bonuses from his equipped, non-one-shot things) then you can use the power. If something happens after that that would mean you aren't winning anymore, you don't get to "take-back" the power. You're both stuck in the combat together.

orangesjull 09-03-2015 07:20 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
Yes is ok. But i want say: the forced player can up or can remove the monster? If is forced to help i dont understand how is possible up to the monster or remove it.

Brf 09-03-2015 09:17 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
The other player is forced to join you in combat. The other player is not forced to try to win. They can sabotage the combat by any means allowed in the rules, such as buffing the monster or adding new monsters with a Wandering Monster card.

Andrew Hackard 09-03-2015 10:58 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
OFFICIAL ANSWER: A player who is forced to join a combat may still work against the munchkins or help the monsters. He is not required to try to win the fight.

orangesjull 09-03-2015 10:59 AM

Re: when you force another player
 
Ok thanks to all :) It,s ok


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