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negru08 06-08-2015 05:05 PM

New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Hello all. Me and my friends have been playing Smash up for the last few months and are starting to get burned on it. We are waiting on the expansions packs to comes out. One of those packs is Munchkin which got me looking into this game. It seems like a very fun game to play with 4-5 people.

But I am new to buying games like this and dont know where to even start. I see that munchkin has so many versions/expansions of the game and I dont know what I need to buy or what pack expansion works with what or if they all work together like smash up.

If anyone would be willing to help me and point me in the right direction or give me a brief explanation of what versions I need/should buy and how all these other expansions work with the main game. That would be great. Also I read somewhere that the older rules were kinda broken and if I had a game prior to a certain date I had to update it? What is that all about?

Thank you for your time :)

Andrew Hackard 06-08-2015 05:12 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Unless your game store has more than half an inch of dust on its shelves, any sets you buy now should have updated cards and rules. (If you want to be SURE, look for a printing date later than 2010.)

Each core game stands on its own and may be enjoyed without any other games or expansions. If you're a new player, I would suggest either original Munchkin or Munchkin Legends as a starting point.

We've posted a Flash demo that gives a brief introduction to the rules of the game: http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/game/demo.html Wil Wheaton's show TableTop also had a Munchkin episode, although some of the specific situations seemed to run contrary to the rules because of the way the show was edited. (Cutting over two hours of game into a 20-minute episode left a lot on the floor...)

The folks here on these forums are happy to answer any questions you might have.

Welcome to Munchkin -- I wish you fun gaming and much looting!

negru08 06-08-2015 05:32 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Thank you! I will have a look at that. Just a bit confused as to like Munchkin 2 Unnatural Axe. It says requires original game. So it doesn't stand by itself. But Munchkin Cthulhu or Munckin Quest do?

Andrew Hackard 06-08-2015 06:40 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Generally, expansions go only with the game they expand. So Munchkin 2 is an expansion for Munchkin and Munchkin Cthulhu 2 is an expansion for Munchkin Cthulhu. There are a few exceptions, but stick to this rule and you won't go wrong.

Munchkin Quest is its own beast, and none of the other Munchkin games are compatible with it. I also would not recommend it to brand-new board gamers; it's a more complex game and the rules assume some familiarity with playing games in general that you may not have.

If you're looking for a true "starter set," let me recommend Munchkin Treasure Hunt. It's a simple game, rated for ages 6 and up, and it has just enough Munchkin-type mechanics to be a good introduction to Munchkin. It's currently available at Toys"R"Us but will be going into the general hobby-game market this fall.

negru08 06-08-2015 07:32 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Thank you :) problem is the game store here doesn't have it so I will have to buy online. How can I tell if it's the new rules?

MunchkinMan 06-08-2015 08:06 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
You could tell someone at your local store what you want and see if they can order it or you. We can't tell you what some other online retailer would have, but I would be extremely confident in saying that Warehouse 23 has only new product. So, if your local game store can't or won't order something for you, and you don't have access to a Barnes & Noble (all three in my area usually have a fair amount of Munchkin product, but only base sets, no expansions), you could go the online route.

negru08 06-10-2015 11:30 AM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Gah there are so many Munckin decks....Its overwhelming. It states that it is a standalone game but can be used with the original. How does that work. Im just lost on which decks I need to buy to enjoy this game. Just buy Munckin 1-6 and none of the expansions like cathulu or skull crushers.

MunchkinMan 06-10-2015 12:16 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Andrew suggested earlier in this thread that you consider Munchkin or Munchkin Legends, since those games are rather basic in comparison to some of the other genres. It's best to learn how to play with a core game before adding an expansion. Anything with a number as part of the name is an expansion (Munchkin 2 is an expansion for Munchkin, Munchkin Cthluhu 2 is an expansion for Munchkin Cthulhu). If it doesn't have a number, it's a standalone core game, so Munchkin Cthulhu is not an expansion, but it can be combined with another standalone game to make a "mashup" game. That, however, is an advanced topic we won't cover here.

negru08 06-10-2015 12:24 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 1908517)
Andrew suggested earlier in this thread that you consider Munchkin or Munchkin Legends, since those games are rather basic in comparison to some of the other genres. It's best to learn how to play with a core game before adding an expansion. Anything with a number as part of the name is an expansion (Munchkin 2 is an expansion for Munchkin, Munchkin Cthluhu 2 is an expansion for Munchkin Cthulhu). If it doesn't have a number, it's a standalone core game, so Munchkin Cthulhu is not an expansion, but it can be combined with another standalone game to make a "mashup" game. That, however, is an advanced topic we won't cover here.

Well our group currently plays Smash Up so we are familiar with the concept of additional cards that bring there own rules...like the Cthulhu smashup introduced madness cards. I am sure we can handle a few expansions at a time like Munchkin 1-6. My question more or less it for example Munchkin Cthulhu is stated as a standalone game but can be added to the munchkin series. Would that be like the same that happens in Smash up? We get new cards with unique rules but still follows the core game design and rule and then just become extra cards you can pick and play with?

Devin Lewis 06-10-2015 12:56 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Practically speaking yes. There are some slight rules variances, but combining two core sets of Munchkin just means there are more cards to choose from.

negru08 06-10-2015 01:08 PM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Ordered Munchkin and will play and see if we want to order expansions or play other standalone decks :)

GranitePenguin 06-12-2015 11:38 AM

Re: New to Munchkin and board games completely....kinda...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negru08 (Post 1908520)
My question more or less it for example Munchkin Cthulhu is stated as a standalone game but can be added to the munchkin series.

The Munchkin line has several Themes: Fantasy, Space, Pirates, Zombies, etc. each Theme has a Base game and one or more expansions.

When a game says it is a "standalone game but can be added to the munchkin series" it means it is a Base game of a particular Theme that can be played on its own (i.e., you don't need anything else to be able to play a full game), but you can combine decks from multiple Base sets to make a "multi-themed" deck (e.g., Munchkin Zombies + Munchkin Booty = Zombie Pirates).

In your specific example, Munchkin Cthulhu is the Core standalone for the Cthulhu Theme, and Munchkin Cthulhu 2, Munchkin Cthulhu 3, etc are expansions that require a Core game to be used.

As mentioned before, most of the themes list their expansions with numbers, and are smaller sets. These will also say that they are NOT complete games and need a core set in order to play.


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