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A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

As an experiment I converted a 4-th level Orc Fighter from my D&D game to GURPS to see what it'd look like. I spent points on combat abilities and fitness rather than more hit points. I thought I'd post it so all can see, and in case it's of some use to someone.

I now think that I was wrong about points values - D&D3.x characters probably start as worth about 100 points, and gain around 30 a level.

Orc Elite Fighter 150 points
6'1", 225 lbs. (SM 0)
ST 15 [30]; DX 11 [20]; IQ 9 [0]; HT 12 [20]
Dmg 1d+1/2d+1; BL 45 lbs.; HP 15 [0]; Will 11 [+10]; Per 10 [+5]; FP 12 [0].
Basic Speed 6.0 [+5]; Basic Move 6 [0]
Dodge 9
Social Background
TL: 3 [0]
CF: Orc [0]
Languages: Orcish (Native) [0], Common (Broken) [+2]

Advantages

Combat Reflexes [+15]
High Pain Threshold [+10]
Orc [+0]
Very Fit [+15]

Disadvantages

Bloodlust [-10]
Callous [-5]
Duty (All the Time, Extremely Hazardous, Involuntary) [-25]

Skills

Two-Handed Axe/Mace-15 (DX+4) [16]
Bow-12 (DX+1) [4]
Knife-13 (DX+3) [8]
Thrown Weapon (Knife)-12 (DX+2) [4]
Brawling-13 (DX+3) [8]
Climbing-13 (DX+2) [8]
Hiking-11 (HT-1) [1]
Jumping-13 (DX+2) [4]
Riding (Horse)-11 (DX+0) [2]
Running-12 (HT+0) [2]
Soldier-9 (IQ+0) [2]
Swimming-11 (DX+0) [1]

Equipment

Great Axe (Fine)
Composite Bow (Fine)
20 arrows (Fine) + quiver
Large Knife, silver-coated
Armour: Steel Corselet, Studded Leather Skirt, Heavy Leather Sleeves, Mail coif + Pot-Helm, Gauntlets, Boots – All enchanted with Deflect +1 & Fortify+1
Assorted personal items and camping gear
Alchemetical potion (effect as Major Healing at 2FP, Power-15) x2
[Note: All this shiny kit is owned by the Army, so it costs nothing but keeping it is theft.]

DR:
Skull, DR9/7; Eyes & Face, DR0; Neck, DR5/3*; Torso, DR7; Legs DR4/3*; Arms, & Feet, DR3*; Hands, DR5).

Code:

Weapon        Damage    Reach  Parry  ST  Notes

Great Axe     2d+5 cut  1,2*   12     12

Large Knife   2d-1 cut  C, 1   10      6

              1d+1 imp  C      10      6

Punch         1d+1 cr   C      11

Kick, Booted  1d+3 cr   C, 1   --



Parries include Combat Reflexes, and the armour's Deflect bonus.



Weapon         Damage    Acc  Range    RoF  Shots  ST  Bulk  Notes

Composite Bow  1d+5 imp  3    360/450  1    1(2)   10  -7    

Large Knife    1d+1 imp  0    12/22    1    T(1)    6  -2

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

I now think that I was wrong about points values - D&D3.x characters probably start as worth about 100 points, and gain around 30 a level.

Sounds acceptable to me. I'd probably go with 125 + 20 per level, but it depends on the specific class.

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

Combat Reflexes [+15]

High Pain Threshold [+10]
Orc [+0]
Very Fit [+15]
Disadvantages
Bloodlust [-10]
Callous [-5]
Duty (All the Time, Extremely Hazardous, Involuntary) [-25]

Skills

Two-Handed Axe/Mace-15 (DX+4) [16]

Bow-12 (DX+1) [4]
Knife-13 (DX+3) [8]
Thrown Weapon (Knife)-12 (DX+2) [4]
Brawling-13 (DX+3) [8]
Climbing-13 (DX+2) [8]
Hiking-12 (HT+0) [2]
Jumping-13 (DX+2) [4]
Riding (Horse)-11 (DX+0) [2]
Running-12 (HT+0) [2]
Stealth-10 (DX-1) [1]
Swimming-11 (DX+0) [1]

Equipment

Great Axe (Fine)

Composite Bow (Fine)
20 arrows (Fine) + quiver
Large Knife, silver-coated
Armour: Steel Corselet, Studded Leather Skirt, Heavy Leather Sleeves, Mail coif + Pot-Helm, Gauntlets, Boots – All enchanted with Deflect +1 & Fortify+1
Assorted personal items and camping gear
Alchemetical potion (effect as Major Healing at 2FP, Power-15) x2
[Note: All this shiny kit is owned by the Army, so it costs nothing but keeping it is theft.]

DR:
Skull, DR9/7; Eyes & Face, DR0; Neck, DR5/3*; Torso, DR7; Legs DR4/3*; Arms, & Feet, DR3*; Hands, DR5).

Code:

Weapon Damage Reach Parry ST Notes

Great Axe 2d+5 cut 1,2* 12 12

Large Knife 2d-1 cut C, 1 10 6

1d+1 imp C 10 6

Punch 1d+1 cr C 11

Kick, Booted 1d+3 cr C, 1 --

 

Parries include Combat Reflexes, and the armour's Deflect bonus.

 

Weapon Damage Acc Range RoF Shots ST Bulk Notes

Composite Bow 1d+5 imp 3 360/450 1 1(2) 10 -7 

Large Knife 1d+1 imp 0 12/22 1 T(1) 6 -2

Mind if I use this character as an NPc ina fantasy game...He would eat the Characters for Lunch!

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

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Originally Posted by Skullcrusher

Mind if I use this character as an NPc ina fantasy game...He would eat the Characters for Lunch!

Not at all. One reason I posted him was so others could use him. BTW, he is an elite soldier - that means there are more, all like him.

In my D&D game Orc are Lawful Evil (not Chaotic as WotC has them), and were breed to be soldiers. This guy is one of the elite types, which is why he has all that nice gear and both a good melee and a good missile weapon. He's not that good a shot with the bow because that's the way D&D works for high Str, average Dex guys, and because Orcs prefer melee anyway.

Up until the PCs were about 8th level these guys game them the heebies because the axes just do so much damage.

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

As an experiment I converted a 4-th level Orc Fighter from my D&D game to GURPS to see what it'd look like.

Any chance we could see what the original's D&D stats were? Might serve as a good "worked example" to point people in the various D&D-GURPS conversion threads to.

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabreCat

Any chance we could see what the original's D&D stats were? Might serve as a good "worked example" to point people in the various D&D-GURPS conversion threads to.

Sure. Here they are. I await flames on the choices I've made. :)
I ended up simply slapping extra points into his skill with an Axe to represent all the feats he's got for melee. If it was legal I'd have bought him level in the whirlwind attacl technique, but that's swords only. Likewise, Power Blow requires TbaM or WM, and I don't think 4th level justifies that (I'd say ~8th level and Greater Weapon Focus and/or Improved Critical would be indicators, and having Greater Weapon Specialisation at 12th+ would make it a certainty if the GURPS game allows WM). He didn't get tactics because D&D orcs aren't very bright or imaginative - in my game they have reasonable tactics in that they have been trained in good combat drills. However, because it rote learning, they can be out-manoeuvred by those who've learnt how their drills work, tend they tend to either stick to the (now worse than useless drill) or go entirely to pieces when this happens. Thus, no Tactics skill.

Droch, 4th-Level Fighter ("Droch" is what Orc are called in my game)

Medium Humanoid (Orc)
Hit Dice: 4d10+8 (35 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares)
Armour Class: 17 (+1 Dex, +6 Breastplate +1), touch 11, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +4/+9
Attack: MW Greataxe +11 melee (1d12+9/x3) or MW mighty composite longbow +6 ranged (1d8+5/x3)
Full Attack: MW Greataxe +11 melee (1d12+9/x3) or MW mighty composite longbow +6 ranged (1d8+5/x3)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks:
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 feet, Light sensitivity
Saves: Fort +6, Ref +2, Will +1
Abilities: Str 20, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 6
Skills: Climb +5, Jump +5, Ride +1, Swim +0
Feats: Endurance, Power Attack, Cleave, Weapon Focus (greataxe), Weapon Specialization (greataxe)
Environment: Any Land
Organization: Military Unit, any size
Challenge Rating: 4
Treasure: As NPC
Alignment: Usually lawful evil
Advancement: By character class
Level Adjustment: +0

Note: Power Attack is optimal as follows (+2 damage per +1 PA):

Code:

AC     PA points

17-    +4

18-19  +3

20-21  +2

22-23  +1

24+    +0

Equipment
MW Greataxe
MW mighty (Str20) composite Longbow
20 arrows
+1 breastplate
Silvered Dagger
Potion: Cure Moderate Wounds x2
Astd. "adventuring" Gear

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert

He didn't get tactics because D&D orcs aren't very bright or imaginative - in my game they have reasonable tactics in that they have been trained in good combat drills. However, because it rote learning, they can be out-manoeuvred by those who've learnt how their drills work, tend they tend to either stick to the (now worse than useless drill) or go entirely to pieces when this happens. Thus, no Tactics skill.

Isn't this the Soldier skill?

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Pretty tough foe. I see that his attributes are adjusted by something that's not listed. What's your orc racial package consist of?

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Looks like I forgot to include it:

Orc 0 points
Attribute Modifiers: ST +2 [+20]; IQ -1 [-20].
Advantages: Infravision [+10]
Disadvantages: Social Stigma (Barbaric) [-5]; Susceptible (Bright Light, "daylight" is a 'trace quantity', giving -1 to combat and Per-based skills) -1 [-4]
Quirks: Chavinistic [-1]

Re: A sample conversion from D&D3.x to GURPS4

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Isn't this the Soldier skill?

It probably should be, yes.