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Samaster 01-27-2015 12:40 PM

Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
In a recent campaign of mine, a couple of my players got both Regeneration (1/sec, FP only) and Very Fit, and i was wondering if the whole "Recover FP at twice normal speed" applies with regeneration

Christopher R. Rice 01-27-2015 12:42 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Samaster (Post 1864007)
In a recent campaign of mine, a couple of my players got both Regeneration (1/sec, FP only) and Very Fit, and i was wondering if the whole "Recover FP at twice normal speed" applies with regeneration

It does not stack at all like that.

Samaster 01-27-2015 01:22 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
Alright, thank you for the clarification

Phantasm 01-27-2015 01:33 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
So how would Very Fit and any level of Regeneration (FP or FP Only) work?

Christopher R. Rice 01-27-2015 01:42 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
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Originally Posted by tbrock1031 (Post 1864038)
So how would Very Fit and any level of Regeneration (FP or FP Only) work?

You'd get the higher regeneration rate for FP, +2 for HT rolls, and you'd lose FP at half the normal rate. There is a post by Kromm stating that Regeneration and Rapid Healing don't interact in any way and it's reasonable to assume that Regeneration for Fatigue Points interact similarly. (Still trying to find the post to link here.) Of course, if your Regeneration doesn't work about some threats (like some modern interpretations of the werewolf) then Rapid Healing suddenly becomes very useful because it increases your natural healing rate against threats your Regeneration advantage do not cover.

the_matrix_walker 01-27-2015 01:49 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
I have disagree with Ghostdancer on this one. If the FP to be recovered is mundane FP use (not spell-casting of fueling powers/esoteric skills) both Advantages should apply.

With Regeneration (which includes Rapid Healing), I allow Very Rapid Healing for 10 points (the difference between Rapid Healing and Very Rapid Healing) to double regeneration speed (more accurately, to add HP/10, rounded down to a minimum of 1) to the number of HP they recover per interval. With the pricing structure of Regeneration, it's perfectly balanced to do so. I see no reason to treat Very Fit any differently.

vicky_molokh 01-27-2015 01:50 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostdancer (Post 1864045)
You'd get the higher regeneration rate for FP, +2 for HT rolls, and you'd lose FP at half the normal rate. There is a post by Kromm stating that Regeneration and Rapid Healing don't interact in any way and it's reasonable to assume that Regeneration for Fatigue Points interact similarly. (Still trying to find the post to link here.) Of course, if your Regeneration doesn't work about some threats (like some modern interpretations of the werewolf) then Rapid Healing suddenly becomes very useful because it increases your natural healing rate against threats your Regeneration advantage do not cover.

Seems like a candidate for Alternative Abilities, BTW.

the_matrix_walker 01-27-2015 01:59 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
Look at it this way... FP +10 will add 1 to your natural FP regeneration rate for 30 points.

Accessibility, Only for FP Recovery purposes, -XX% Has to be a pretty high limitation value.

Also note that Rapid Healing gives a bonus to healing rolls, but does not change the actual rate of recovery beyond what that bonus provides, you need Very Rapid Healing for that.

Christopher R. Rice 01-27-2015 02:07 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker (Post 1864047)
I have disagree with Ghostdancer on this one. If the FP to be recovered is mundane FP use (not spell-casting of fueling powers/esoteric skills) both Advantages should apply.

With Regeneration (which includes Rapid Healing), I allow Very Rapid Healing for 10 points (the difference between Rapid Healing and Very Rapid Healing) to double regeneration speed (more accurately, to add HP/10, rounded down to a minimum of 1) to the number of HP they recover per interval. With the pricing structure of Regeneration, it's perfectly balanced to do so. I see no reason to treat Very Fit any differently.

And I thought so too. But PK points it out (I still cannot find where Kromm comes out and says it - and he does) that it's a house rule, not official interpretation. It's from this thread.

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1864048)
Seems like a candidate for Alternative Abilities, BTW.

This was brought up by my other half where she had a character heal stupid fast from everything but iron weapons (10 HP/second) and heal damage inflicted by them at a rate of 1/12 hours. It's a nice alternative.

Fred Brackin 01-27-2015 03:55 PM

Re: Regeneration and Very Fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker (Post 1864047)
I have disagree with Ghostdancer on this one. If the FP to be recovered is mundane FP use (not spell-casting of fueling powers/esoteric skills) both Advantages should apply.

With Regeneration (which includes Rapid Healing), I allow Very Rapid Healing for 10 points (the difference between Rapid Healing and Very Rapid Healing) to double regeneration speed .

Not RAW at all. RH and VRH work "wen you roll to recover lost HP" and you never roll to use Regeneration. It just happens.

Rapid Healing could work in parallel with Regneration but there would be no synergy per the RAW. You may construct House rules as you please of course.


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