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Moldon 06-04-2014 08:52 AM

Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
I'm Navy and use Ship of The Line (usable by Navy only). It is my only Ship.
I lose Navy Class. What happens to the ship?

MunchkinMan 06-04-2014 09:28 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
The Ship of The Line says it is usable only by Navy, and as the rules say, "Ships are Items, and follow normal Item rules." So, if you're not Navy anymore, you must turn it sideways to indicate you aren't using it. That does not give you the ability to play a different Ship because you can (normally) only have one Ship in play.

Moldon 06-04-2014 11:21 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
Is it correct for Steed too?

MunchkinMan 06-04-2014 12:31 PM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
Yes, it would be the same.

Bellum 06-05-2014 07:07 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
And what about this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard (Post 1276819)
You cannot have a Steed/Ship/Vehicle in play that you cannot use at that moment (unless, of course, you use Cheat!, which means you CAN use it at that moment). Hireling-type cards also follow that rule, even if they happen to be Items.

This will be added to the FAQ as an official ruling.

No discarding, no sell/trade, just turn sideway, really?

MunchkinMan 06-05-2014 11:32 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
Well, now, I hadn't seen that in my searching, and the FAQ doesn't say that anywhere that I can find easily, so I'm guessing that getting that on the FAQ hasn't happened yet.

I'll defer to Andrew's statement. I'll also let him describe what happens next if I'm incorrect in assuming it's similar to that of having to get rid of extra Big Items when you lose the ability to have more than one: During your turn you could sell it (assuming you have enough other items to get to 1000 Gold Pieces); during or not during your turn you could trade it to another player who could take it; if no one wants to trade in a way you want, then you must give it to the lowest level player who could take it; if none of the previous options are available, discard it.

Andrew Hackard 09-16-2014 10:06 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
I'm rescinding my previous ruling to this extent: you MAY have a Ship, Steed, or Vehicle in play and unequipped, either because you cannot currently use it or because you just don't want to. However, this does not override the rule about only having one in play at a time; if you have an unequipped Steed, you cannot play another one without getting rid of the first one.

Furthermore, I'm ruling that a Steed/Ship/Vehicle that is in play and unequipped DOES count against your Big items, because "it carries itself" is a function of a Steed/Ship/Vehicle that is currently equipped, not an inherent feature of the card type. So if you are forced to unequip a Steed (etc.) and you already have another Big item in play, you have to resolve the conflict before doing anything else.

Moldon 04-11-2016 12:07 AM

Re: Ship of The Line and lose Navy Class
 
I think it is important for those who find THIS thread
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard (Post 1996787)
This is an official ruling that covers all manners of conveyance (Steeds, Vehicles, Ships) and supersedes anything else we may have said previously on the topic:

Unless a specific card says otherwise, Steeds, Vehicles, and Ships MAY NOT be unequipped. If they are in play, they must be equipped.



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