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Dudimus 04-19-2014 07:09 PM

Closing Seals
 
I just got an Apocalypse set, and after looking through the rules and cards I've got a few questions about seals.

I open a seal and it's the DOOM!!! seal. Obviously I open another seal, let's say Beer Shortage. Then I play The Chosen One and close the seal. I assume all Militia will still go down a level before Chosen One takes effect, but after that, according to the Apocalypse rule sheet, I close Beer Shortage, put it on the bottom of the seal deck, and then use the "continuing effect" of the previous seal, which happens to be DOOM!!!. What happens?

A strict reading of the card would mean that another seal must automatically be opened, but the Doom seal has no "continuing effect," so should it simply remain open and do nothing instead? (And if that's the case, what would the Destroying Angel do with it? Open a new seal I would guess.)

I'm leaning towards treating the Doom text as both the immediate and continuing effect of the card, thus automatically opening a new seal when the previous seal is closed, but that would mean there is basically no way to close seals past the point at which the Doom seal was opened. I don't think playing The Chosen One as soon as the Doom seal is opened would work, because the Doom seal would have to be applied before the Chosen One takes effect.

Could I close Doom with two seal closing abilities? For instance if in the above example I was also a Scientist and used technobabble to close a seal and simultaneously used the Chosen One to close the second seal, would that close the Doom seal, or would it still open a new seal before the second closing event occurs?

Andrew Hackard 04-19-2014 08:09 PM

Re: Closing Seals
 
I am going to have to look at all of these cards in more detail before I attempt an answer, but I can put some of this to bed immediately: DOOOOM!! has no continuing effect.

Andrew Hackard 05-06-2014 04:15 PM

Re: Closing Seals
 
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Originally Posted by Dudimus (Post 1751730)
I open a seal and it's the DOOM!!! seal. Obviously I open another seal, let's say Beer Shortage. Then I play The Chosen One and close the seal. I assume all Militia will still go down a level before Chosen One takes effect,

Yes, because closing a Seal by itself doesn't interrupt the Seal's effect. Contrast with the wording on Safety Dance, which is explicit that its effect is immediate and interrupts the Seal's effect.

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Originally Posted by Dudimus (Post 1751730)
but after that, according to the Apocalypse rule sheet, I close Beer Shortage, put it on the bottom of the seal deck, and then use the "continuing effect" of the previous seal, which happens to be DOOM!!!. What happens?

As previously answered, nothing, because DOOM!!! has no Continuing Effect.

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Originally Posted by Dudimus (Post 1751730)
And if that's the case, what would the Destroying Angel do with it? Open a new seal I would guess.)

Yup.

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Originally Posted by Dudimus (Post 1751730)
Could I close Doom with two seal closing abilities? For instance if in the above example I was also a Scientist and used technobabble to close a seal and simultaneously used the Chosen One to close the second seal, would that close the Doom seal, or would it still open a new seal before the second closing event occurs?

There is no card in base Munchkin Apocalypse that allows you to close more than one Seal at once. There is, however, such a card in Sheep Impact.

Dudimus 05-07-2014 01:20 AM

Re: Closing Seals
 
Thank you very much!


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