Originally Posted by JCurwen3 (Post 1695748)

How would you price having a smaller comfort zone range than 55°? I checked and there doesn't seem to be a RAW answer.

Originally Posted by Langy (Post 1695928)

I'd rewrite Temperature Tolerance like this, which includes Reduced Temperature Tolerance.

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1695937)

What about making a machine that has Immunity to Metabolic Hazards actually have a temperature range unrelated to that required to cause damage?
I've asked this in other threads, but it always devolves into arguments that machines aren't actually immune to temperature based metabolic hazards. Regardless of R.A.W. and Kromm quotes.

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1695977)

That part after "Outside of this range" is not in any book I have. From other threads I gather it's part of the new material from the Zombie supplement.

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1695977)

+15 with the rule of 16 I assume?

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1695977)

I don't have my Basic next to me, but I don't remember intensity mentioned for heat, only cold.

Originally Posted by Basic page 434

Modifiers: A penalty equal to your encumbrance level (-1 for Light, -2 for Medium, and so on); -1 per extra 10° heat.

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1695996)

That makes TT extremely overpriced for machines. I wonder if a 5 or even 10 times as effective ruling would be reasonable.

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead (Post 1696043)

ItMH man only fails on 17-18, but if he fails he lose a point of HT. The odds of him making all 24 rolls are (53/54)^24 or 63.85% or 36.14% that he will fail some of those rolls and lose some HT. An Over 1/3 chance of permanently losing HT for spending a cold night outside!

Originally Posted by Nereidalbel (Post 1696054)

Did Kromm ever confirm that the HT loss is permanent if you're not Unhealing? Since it does seem that Zombies assumes Unhealing, unless otherwise noted.

It seems more likely, IMO, that HT recovery for those without Unhealing would follow similar limitations as the FP/HP recovery for Normal Guy.

Originally Posted by Kromm

This is HT loss, not HP loss (which is affected by Unhealing) or a crippling injury (which is affected by Regrowth and Unhealing). For the purpose of healing, it is essentially identical to HT lost to a Fright Check-induced seizure (p. B361), a mortal wound (p. B423), aging (p. B444), or missed maintenance (p. B485): truly permanent unless you have the medicine (if living) or repair facilities (if not) to restore the HT. A character built on points could of course buy HT back up as well.

The lowest defined level for attributes is 0, so it can't get worse. A living being dies at HT 0, as per Age and Aging (p. B444). Any other kind of entity stops there, where it is ludicrously fragile; see Maintenance (p. B485).

It includes immunity to the metabolic effects of heat/cold (that is, FP loss) and electrical shock (i.e., stunning and heart attack). It has no influence on structural effects such as burning damage, surge, or structural weakening due to thermal expansion/contraction or electrical treeing.

Correct. Temperature Tolerance exists to expand the range of temperatures where you can avoid metabolic effects (and I agree that it's a little overpriced).

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Note also that very few rules exist to cover structural effects. That's a clear rules oversight. Thus, the "+15 rule" isn't likely to see much use. It's just there in case the GM does want to house-rule structural effects into the game.