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Luke Bunyip 06-25-2021 05:29 AM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by awesomenessofme1 (Post 2385566)
I'm not too familiar with the Cabal, but are they the sort of organization to frequently make plans that will only pay off in half a century or more? Seems a bit excessive.

But... have you ever considered revelling in the glorious intricacy which is your own web of plots, whilst being serenaded by the purrs of a long haired feline?

Excess is just a flourish.





Bwahahahahaha

Astromancer 06-26-2021 08:47 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Emerald Cat (Post 2385495)
I wonder how Canada and the British Empire would react to the USA conquering Mexico. On the one hand, the USA would be taking away colonial possessions from Britain's historical enemy - France - in the Americas. On the other hand, this could cause paranoia that the USA would try to seize Canada.

Since the plan is to force the USA and Mexico to join forces to defend their sovereignty, getting Britain to declare war on both nations might work.

Astromancer 06-26-2021 09:10 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Apollonian (Post 2385524)
It sounds like exactly the sort of effort that gets the USA bogged down in guerilla warfare, like the Philippine occupation after the Spanish American War. And at this point, the Mexican-American War is only eighteen years ago or so in this timeline. While the Mexicans accepted American aid against the French, actual union with the USA seems unlikely to be welcomed. And the Cabal must know this, so there are probably plots within plots... and/or heaping helpings of hubris, because Cabal.

In the aftermath of the Mexican-American War most of Mexico north of Guadalajara wanted to be taken by the USA. Washington would be a pain true, but Mexico City was provably worse. The French were invited in by Mexico's elites to permanently crush progressive revolts in Northern Mexico.

Astromancer 06-26-2021 09:11 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Varyon (Post 2385529)
Perhaps the Cabal would be content with a very close alliance rather than Mexico joining the US as the ~37th state; I'd imagine the former would be easier to pull off, particularly if the Union Army does an exceptional job in ousting the French. Provided they have pleasant enough alliance, it could eventually result in Mexico joining the US, but I'd expect that to take a few decades at least.

The Cabal's plans have often been low on realism and high on destructiveness.

Astromancer 06-26-2021 09:13 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Kymage (Post 2385539)
What is the date of the Timeline currently? Is the Civil War over or still being waged?

As written I assume the French are still in Mexico. So as the French left once they saw the ACW was wrapping up, both wars are still ongoing.

Astromancer 06-26-2021 09:14 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Luke Bunyip (Post 2385639)
But... have you ever considered revelling in the glorious intricacy which is your own web of plots, whilst being serenaded by the purrs of a long haired feline?

Excess is just a flourish.





Bwahahahahaha

Your insight is clear and penetrating.

Astromancer 06-28-2021 11:41 AM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
Try this one...

In most worlds Saladin is a major figure. In this Q6 Low Mana Parallel he seems to have died as a child if he was even born. Fights between the Islamic powers preserved the Crusader States until the local year 1346. Now Orhan I is moving to conquer the Holy Lands. This will both delay any conquest of the Byzantine Empire and bring the Ottomans into conflict with the Mamluks.

The Cabal, wanting more Greek and Latin classical texts to survive, and also wanting the Byzantines to survive into at least the 16th century, are working to protect and strengthen the Palaiogos dynasty by changing the outcome the 1341-1347 Civil War.

Basically, an espionage game in the High Medieval Near East. Homeline is more interested in limiting Cabal influence than anything else. This world is low mana but there seem be be some anomalies. Homeline is worried about the Cabal's real goals.

David Johnston2 06-28-2021 12:18 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Astromancer (Post 2386098)
Try this one...

In most worlds Saladin is a major figure. In this Q6 Low Mana Parallel he seems to have died as a child if he was even born. Fights between the Islamic powers preserved the Crusader States until the local year 1346. Now Orhan I is moving to conquer the Holy Lands. This will both delay any conquest of the Byzantine Empire and bring the Ottomans into conflict with the Mamluks.

The Cabal, wanting more Greek and Latin classical texts to survive, and also wanting the Byzantines to survive into at least the 16th century, are working to protect and strengthen the Palaiogos dynasty by changing the outcome the 1341-1347 Civil War.

Basically, an espionage game in the High Medieval Near East. Homeline is more interested in limiting Cabal influence than anything else. This world is low mana but there seem be be some anomalies. Homeline is worried about the Cabal's real goals.

You know, Homeline doesn't have the same reaction to the Cabal that it has to Centrum. So far as they know, the Cabal has no large scale agenda that threatens Homeline. In fact there's no reason to think the Cabal is even organized enough to have any unified agenda apart from "keep magic secret"...an agenda that Homeline actually approves of since it restricts the spread of another method of parachronic travel. There's no particular reason why they'd care that some Cabal lodge likes Byzantium and wants to help it.

Now one possibility is that is that a Homeline group with deus vult tendencies is intervening to try to direct the Turks away from the Crusader Kingdoms and toward Byzantium while at the time trying to strengthen the foes of the Turks. The patrol is looking to shut them down for exceeding acceptable levels of tampering while at the same time the Cabal's Byzantium are looking for the source of the disruption in their agenda...

fchase8 06-30-2021 04:30 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by Astromancer (Post 2386098)
Try this one...

In most worlds Saladin is a major figure. In this Q6 Low Mana Parallel he seems to have died as a child if he was even born. Fights between the Islamic powers preserved the Crusader States until the local year 1346. Now Orhan I is moving to conquer the Holy Lands. This will both delay any conquest of the Byzantine Empire and bring the Ottomans into conflict with the Mamluks.

The Cabal, wanting more Greek and Latin classical texts to survive, and also wanting the Byzantines to survive into at least the 16th century, are working to protect and strengthen the Palaiogos dynasty by changing the outcome the 1341-1347 Civil War.

Basically, an espionage game in the High Medieval Near East. Homeline is more interested in limiting Cabal influence than anything else. This world is low mana but there seem be be some anomalies. Homeline is worried about the Cabal's real goals.

What if The Cabal caused Saladin's non-existence? This could be from some of that time-traveling that The Cabal gets up to.

And what Infinity found out? The idea that The Cabal can travel through time would terrify Infinity, even if it only works on mana worlds.


There could be a bunch of relatively close parallel mana worlds (likely low-mana) that were created by Cabalist time travel.

For instance, low-mana Q3 Armada-3, where Spanish broadsheets blame a college of magicians for the revolts that have broken out in England & Netherlands after Philip II's death, could be because of some John Dee intervention gone wrong.

(think Times Without Number)

Astromancer 07-02-2021 08:20 PM

Re: New Reality Seeds
 
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Originally Posted by fchase8 (Post 2386446)
What if The Cabal caused Saladin's non-existence? This could be from some of that time-traveling that The Cabal gets up to.

And what Infinity found out? The idea that The Cabal can travel through time would terrify Infinity, even if it only works on mana worlds.


There could be a bunch of relatively close parallel mana worlds (likely low-mana) that were created by Cabalist time travel.

For instance, low-mana Q3 Armada-3, where Spanish broadsheets blame a college of magicians for the revolts that have broken out in England & Netherlands after Philip II's death, could be because of some John Dee intervention gone wrong.

(think Times Without Number)

Fun ideas, not how I wrote it but enjoy.


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