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PK 10-04-2013 01:42 PM

The future of Ritual Path Magic
 
I've split off this thread from my other thread about Pyramid support for RPM to fix a bad case of threadjacking. This thread is now the place to talk about the future of RPM! Talk away. :)

Kuroshima 10-04-2013 05:47 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
I personally think that RPM should be the standard magic system for 5e :)

sir_pudding 10-04-2013 05:50 PM

The future of Ritual Path Magic
 
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Originally Posted by Kuroshima (Post 1655764)
I personally think that RPM should be the standard magic system for 5e :)

I still don't think that any thing that isn't plug-and-play or that doesn't give DF-style results out of the box should be the "standard" magic system for a hobby that mainly still sees D&D (in some incarnation) as the "standard".

Kuroshima 10-04-2013 06:02 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1655766)
I still don't think that any thing that isn't plug-and-play or that doesn't give DF-style results out of the box should be the "standard" magic system for a hobby that mainly still sees D&D (in some incarnation) as the "standard".

What can I say, I just find RPM much more elegant, and specially much better scaling, than the classic system. As for the rest, I can say no more...

sir_pudding 10-04-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
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Originally Posted by Kuroshima (Post 1655774)
What can I say, I just find RPM much more elegant, and specially much better scaling, than the classic system. As for the rest, I can say no more...

It basically excludes anybody who has any tendencies for analysis paralysis from playing a mage. At least if you want game sessions to be more than just waiting for someone to cast a single spell. I like it, I just don't get the "use it for everything" vibe that y'all seem to have.

Christopher R. Rice 10-04-2013 06:43 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1655776)
It basically excludes anybody who has any tendencies for analysis paralysis from playing a mage. At least if you want game sessions to be more than just waiting for someone to cast a single spell. I like it, I just don't get the "use it for everything" vibe that y'all seem to have.

RPM is the cranberry of GURPS magic. "Hey, you like your apple [standard magic], why not add a little cranberry? You know, cran-apple."

Kalzazz 10-04-2013 06:48 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
The Magic Magic system is very easy to use and internalize, you dont need to think 'I wonder how I might stat this' you just think of the proper spell from Magic and off you go

For instance, in last session, my character was confronted with the need to get a plant inside a solar sphere without the plant being vaporized by the heat

Immediately pops into my mind 'Oh, thats Resist Fire, x3 cost for star level heat'

However, using an RPM Mage, that is . . . . trickier

The eventual solution (which the DM and I took probably entirely to long hashing out) was Greater Transform Body (Altered Traits 0pt feature temperature tolerance center point is a 0pt feature), and 2x Lesser Control Magic (to ratchet said center point up and down)

Now, I love love RPM (hence why I was playing an RPM caster), but, it is definitely a trick at times to figure out how to do stuff with it that would be no fuss, no muss with Magic

Christopher R. Rice 10-04-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
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Originally Posted by Kalzazz (Post 1655794)
The Magic Magic system is very easy to use and internalize, you dont need to think 'I wonder how I might stat this' you just think of the proper spell from Magic and off you go

For instance, in last session, my character was confronted with the need to get a plant inside a solar sphere without the plant being vaporized by the heat

Immediately pops into my mind 'Oh, thats Resist Fire, x3 cost for star level heat'

However, using an RPM Mage, that is . . . . trickier

The eventual solution (which the DM and I took probably entirely to long hashing out) was Greater Transform Body (Altered Traits 0pt feature temperature tolerance center point is a 0pt feature), and 2x Lesser Control Magic (to ratchet said center point up and down)

Now, I love love RPM (hence why I was playing an RPM caster), but, it is definitely a trick at times to figure out how to do stuff with it that would be no fuss, no muss with Magic

First, keep in mind that RPM doesn't do absolute effects (usually) - it's very GURPS-y in that way. Second, don't ever let the effects of a spell bog down play. If you (the GM) screw up, oh well, it was a once time effect and won't happen again. Third, that's a pretty clever solution and will have to remember it. I probably would have treated it as a Altered Form with said Feature, that way you can turn it off and on, but I like that.

Kalzazz 10-04-2013 07:55 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
Just like 3e had Magic and Grimoire I am hoping there someday will be a Grimoire full of more happy fun rituals for RPM

Christopher R. Rice 10-04-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Ritual Path Magic already has supplements?
 
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Originally Posted by Kalzazz (Post 1655833)
Just like 3e had Magic and Grimoire I am hoping there someday will be a Grimoire full of more happy fun rituals for RPM

80 new spells weren't enough for you? You want more? ;-)


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