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MunchkinMan 09-25-2013 08:11 AM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
The point that I'm responding to is the notion that the player who has chosen to search through the discards can take other actions while they search through the discards. If you're hunting through the discards, that's what you're doing, and you can't do anything else. If you take too long and give people lots of time to pound on you during that, well, that's just too bad. Other people get to do stuff (to you and to others) while you're hunting through the discards because they aren't doing anything at that time that would prevent them from doing so.

Mister Ed 09-25-2013 10:22 AM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
Still seems odd that others would get to take actions DURING the resolution of a card, given that the general Munchkin rule is that cards must resolve as they are played before something else can take place, but the ruling is clear, so there it is.

Andrew Hackard 09-25-2013 11:01 AM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
General rules can be superseded by specific cases, and this is one.

offsides 09-25-2013 11:40 AM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 1650636)
The point that I'm responding to is the notion that the player who has chosen to search through the discards can take other actions while they search through the discards. If you're hunting through the discards, that's what you're doing, and you can't do anything else. If you take too long and give people lots of time to pound on you during that, well, that's just too bad. Other people get to do stuff (to you and to others) while you're hunting through the discards because they aren't doing anything at that time that would prevent them from doing so.

Would this also mean that if I'm searching the discards and someone hits me with a curse, I _can't_ use a Wishing Ring to cancel the curse because I'm still searching the discards? That feels both Munchkinly evil but also kinda wrong...

Andrew Hackard 09-25-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by offsides (Post 1650732)
Would this also mean that if I'm searching the discards and someone hits me with a curse, I _can't_ use a Wishing Ring to cancel the curse because I'm still searching the discards? That feels both Munchkinly evil but also kinda wrong...

No, it does not mean that.

Gridxd 09-25-2013 03:13 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
what about playing go up a level in response to a curse. If so, how is that different from selling stuff?

Andrew Hackard 09-25-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
You cannot play a GUAL in response to the Curse. The reason you can play a Wishing Ring is because it is specifically intended to cancel the Curse.

Gridxd 09-25-2013 09:42 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
But another player would be able to use a GUAL in response to dowsing. Correct?

Clipper 09-25-2013 09:49 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gridxd (Post 1650913)
But another player would be able to use a GUAL in response to dowsing. Correct?

Yes. The way I now understand it is that while you are searching a discard pile, other players can do things that could be done 'at any time', but you can't do those things until you are done searching.

The only cards you could play while looking through the discards would be cards that react to something the other players did, such as playing a Wishing Ring to stop a Curse another player just hit you with.

Hopefully I'm not making any more mistakes here, as I'm fairly certain I finally understand the intent.

offsides 09-26-2013 04:21 PM

Re: Wand of Dowsing to Divine Intervention
 
That certainly sounds logical enough. It also feels right - playing something in response to an action is certainly different than initiating a new action.


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