TL 9 gun messed up.
 

Has anyone else noticed that the TL 9 guns should be much stronger? The 25mm anti material has a lower base die damage then a .50 cal sniper from TL 8. Its damage is 10d++ (max 60 before piercing modifier) and the .50 cal is 6dx2 pi+ (max 72 before piercing modifier) While the 25mm has a larger piercing modifier that only comes into play after penetration, it should have a much higher base damage in the first place

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You are not comparing like with like. The 25mm Payload Rifle is a low-moderate velocity weapon that relies on the warhead for effect - you would use it to fire HE, HEAT, or chemical shells. What you should be comparing with the .50 sniper rifle is the 15mm anti-material rifle, which does 15d pi+ (and can do considerably more if you use an ETC or liquid propellant version - UT139 for these versions).

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Just Becouse its a payload rifle dose not mean it would have a lower velocity then it normally should have. The barrett xm109 (a real 25mm rifle in the later stages of development) wont.

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Though you are correct, I compared the wrong two things.

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And will the payload of that rifle include a lot of functioning electronics?

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I so look forward to GURPS Armory. Pulver made assumptions when he designed his weapons, perfectly gameable assumptions, but once I have Armory, I can more clearly see what those assumptions are and adjust them to suit my needs.

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Actually, it does. The XM109 has a muzzle velocity of 425 m/s, a little under half the 853 m/s of am M82

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Actually, the payload rifle will (the text even states that it's a medium-velocity weapon).

As for the XM109, tt's intended muzzle velocity is about 1400 ft/s, which is about half the muzzle velocity of a .50 round from a Barrett M82. The XM109 is intended for exactly the role that UT intends the payload rifle for, and it has ammunition of similar type and ballistics.

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The payload rifle is essentially a rifle-shaped long-range precision grenade launcher. That's really what you have to think of it as.

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Wow, that would be really great! Are there indications that they are currently or in the near future working on it?