Originally Posted by Jachra (Post 1609249)

The Force as Esoteric Skills
This is my completely untested shot at doing the Force as a series of Esoteric Skills, based on GURPS Martial Arts and some other things, including Magic as Psi.

I like this approach because it runs with the idea that the Force is a sort of amped up version of Wuxia. It also allows a lot of 'basic' ideas to be learned cheaply (after all, it seems like new Force Adepts pick up the basics pretty quickly in the series,) but mastery takes a long time and there's no easy route to it.

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 1609313)

These are great - top work! This seems like a great way to model the force, especially in an all- or mostly-Jedi campaign, where balancing the force vs non-Force abilities isn't such a central concern.

I like this approach a lot!

Originally Posted by Jachra (Post 1609249)

The Force as Esoteric Skills
This is my completely untested shot at doing the Force as a series of Esoteric Skills, based on GURPS Martial Arts and some other things, including Magic as Psi.

I like this approach because it runs with the idea that the Force is a sort of amped up version of Wuxia. It also allows a lot of 'basic' ideas to be learned cheaply (after all, it seems like new Force Adepts pick up the basics pretty quickly in the series,) but mastery takes a long time and there's no easy route to it.

I did some rough calculations based on Time As Experience and it seems like this comes out pretty well. Sadly, I don't have these any more. Short version is that I accounted for the long-term intensive training of the Temple versus the more sporadic training of new initiates after the Temple was destroyed. The latter require a couple months of intensive training to get the basics, which seems fitting.

Originally Posted by Jachra (Post 1609462)

Thanks!

Yeah, they're a little harsh against non-Jedi, so the non-Jedi have to be okay with playing with Jedi with these rules or they need a point-boost. In a way, it's like the old D6 game, which wasn't terribly concerned with character concept balance either.

They're more meant to replicate 'okay, what seems a faithful depiction of the movie abilities?' to a certain degree than balance.

Originally Posted by Jachra (Post 1609673)

I think this also works well for poorly trained Force Users, so long as you're restrictive about them learning more. A low level of competency isn't overpowering.

And you would roll the skill for any complicated uses of TK. I based it off the GURPS Psionics skills there.

Originally Posted by tbrock1031 (Post 1609676)

Follow my logic here.

I have a TK BL of 1 lb. That calls for a low TK skill level in your system. I haven't crunched numbers yet, but that's well below the average of skill 10.

I can have the doll do a complex dance (base skill roll) almost unconsciously (-8 to skill?) while splitting my concentration (-2 to skill per ability).

It's impossible to do this in your system. To get the skill up there to cover the TDMs, you'd need skill 20 at least, which gives a TK BL of 80 lbs.

Originally Posted by Jachra (Post 1609687)

How do you get a TK BL of 1 from that?
Presume a Willpower of 13, 1 point in Telekinesis skill gives you a TK ST of 10, which is BL 20.
Ah, I see - no, your telekinetic strength is supposed to be stable at the level you purchased the skill at, it's not affected by the modifiers. I could clarify that.

Originally Posted by tbrock1031 (Post 1609702)

Ah, I think you misunderstand. I said I wanted a character with a TK BL of 1 lb who was able to soak those kinds of skill penalties. Low raw power, high skill at using the power. Basing TK BL off the skill won't permit that.