3872 Orcs Running Away
 

So, on a 1 or a 2, I die, but on any other number, I lose that many levels.

Does that mean that it is impossible to run away (on a 5 or 6, I simply lose 5 or 6 levels)? Or, do I roll, and I can run on a 5 or a 6, but on a 3 or a 4 I would lose that many levels?

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

You roll a die to Run Away.

If you fail that Run Away roll you then roll again to determine the extent of the Bad Stuff.

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

Gotcha, that makes sense.

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Actually, I should ask one more question...

If I failed to run away but WASN'T KILLED by the Orcs, thus forcing me to roll the 2nd time, and I was cursed by the Chicken on my Head, I guess the Chicken would help me by causing me to lose less levels, wouldn't it?

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

And, a little closer to death. Assume that a 1 is still a 1, even with the -1, so your chances of dying are 50%. . .

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I would assume, since the Chicken says that all rolls are reduced by 1 that on a roll of 1-3 you'd die, 4 you lose 3 levels, 5 is 4 levels, and 6 is 5 levels.

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

No one has to assume anything, because I am officially saying:

* You do not roll again. If you succeed in Running Away, you do not suffer the Bad Stuff; if you fail, use the number you rolled.

* On any number 2 or less, you die. On any number 3 or higher *that is a failing roll*, you lose that many levels.

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

Really? Wow, the card should be FAQed and errated, then, because that is not clear on the card at all.

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I will double-check the card when I'm not sitting in an airport on my 17th hour of being awake and getting ready to board the last leg home, but that's the most logical answer as I see it right now.

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I strongly agree with bonetm. The Bad Stuff tells you to "roll a die", not to use your failed Run Away roll. There are other cards like this (Snails on Speed, Bipolar Bear), and there are even other cards that say some other player rolls a die (Wraith in Munchkin Bites! for one).

I see while writing this that you already agreed to look this up, so I'll wait for your decision, before further arguing the point, though.

I'm not sure I fully understand this one. How would the Orcs kill you on your first roll? The first roll simply determines if you escape or not. The second roll is the only one where the Orcs can kill you (assuming Andrew ends up agreeing with bonetm and I).

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

Oh, point taken. For some reason I was assuming that I had to roll again if I got a number higher than 2, but a number 2 or lower automatically killed me. Don't know how that one got in my head.

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I'm looking at the card, and the Bad Stuff says to roll a die, then figure out what that means, not to use the Run Away roll to determine what should happen.

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If you fail to Run Away from 3,872 Orcs, you have to roll again no matter what, since the Bad Stuff tells you to roll a die. I'm overruling Andrew because I'm looking at the card and the database, and there's no way to interpret it any other way.

Re: 3872 Orcs Running Away
 

I just checked the database and Erik is right. Consider this yet another illustration of why one should not comment on cards unless one has the card text handy.

My apologies to all for the confusion.