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jdelcarp89 05-23-2013 08:45 AM

building treasure and door decks
 
So I have the core game apocalypse, and bought zombies 2 (expansion) and cthulhu 3 and 4. So over all I have 400 cards. I want to combine them but i'm not sure if there should be any specific build for the door cars. (I'm not too picky about the treasure cards, because all treasure is pretty helpful).

Should there be a set number of classes, mojos, powers, monsters, disasters, curses, madnesses, and oneshot items, or should I just be silly and use all the cards when I play? The reason I ask is because I don't want to have so many cards that can boost my munchkins making the game to easy, but I also don't want to have too few of cards making it tedious to level.
thanks!

cartmanbeck 05-23-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jdelcarp89 (Post 1583829)
So I have the core game apocalypse, and bought zombies 2 (expansion) and cthulhu 3 and 4. So over all I have 400 cards. I want to combine them but i'm not sure if there should be any specific build for the door cars. (I'm not too picky about the treasure cards, because all treasure is pretty helpful).

Should there be a set number of classes, mojos, powers, monsters, disasters, curses, madnesses, and oneshot items, or should I just be silly and use all the cards when I play? The reason I ask is because I don't want to have so many cards that can boost my munchkins making the game to easy, but I also don't want to have too few of cards making it tedious to level.
thanks!

You got the core Apocalypse, but only expansions for zombies and cthulu? Honestly you're not going to have enough copies of the classes and mojos and powers from those expansions without the base sets... I'd strongly suggest you get both of those other base sets and then just mix everything and go from there.

jdelcarp89 05-23-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cartmanbeck (Post 1583849)
You got the core Apocalypse, but only expansions for zombies and cthulu? Honestly you're not going to have enough copies of the classes and mojos and powers from those expansions without the base sets... I'd strongly suggest you get both of those other base sets and then just mix everything and go from there.

Well my idea is to Have more class options. I have three copies of each class from cthulu, and two copies of the zombie classes. So combined with all the classes from apocalypse, there's enough variety right?

Brandonson112 05-23-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jdelcarp89 (Post 1583888)
Well my idea is to Have more class options. I have three copies of each class from cthulu, and two copies of the zombie classes. So combined with all the classes from apocalypse, there's enough variety right?

But thats not really how the games are meant to be played. They are balanced when you mix sets together along with the base sets. Otherwise things start to break.

jdelcarp89 05-23-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandonson112 (Post 1583901)
But thats not really how the games are meant to be played. They are balanced when you mix sets together along with the base sets. Otherwise things start to break.

Break how? I've included curses and madnesses and treasures and monsters from each? That way the players have a variety of classes, items, monsters and curses to use.

Brandonson112 05-23-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jdelcarp89 (Post 1583907)
Break how? I've included curses and madnesses and treasures and monsters from each? That way the players have a variety of classes, items, monsters and curses to use.

Well i mean i guess if you meticulously went into each pack and tied to balance it with even amounts of cards it might work, but I'm sure it would be more fun if you simply bought the base sets and mixed them first.

And by break I mean that some necessary card interactions would be broken because things are missing.

Mister Ed 05-23-2013 11:54 AM

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I think where it might start to get wonky is that the BULK of the other cards that specifically reference (or are referenced by) the classes/races/etc. from the core sets are found IN the core sets. So classes/races/etc. that originated in core sets for which you are only including expansions will have fewer card interactions than either core classes/races/etc. for which you ARE including the core sets, or classes/races/etc. that originated in the expansions you are including.

That sounds really convoluted when I reread it. Does it make sense?

jdelcarp89 05-23-2013 11:58 AM

Re: building treasure and door decks
 
I guess I'll just have to see how it goes. I just play with friends and family so I figured this would be okay. I just wanted to mix zombies apocalypse and Cthulhu because they have an apocalyptic feel to them.

If it does not work you suggest I just by the core sets and then mix all the cards together to make massive treasure and door piles? Or is there some set mixing formula that says " hey to effectively mix two munchkin sets together you should have xyz cards in there"?

Brandonson112 05-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jdelcarp89 (Post 1583912)
I guess I'll just have to see how it goes. I just play with friends and family so I figured this would be okay. I just wanted to mix zombies apocalypse and Cthulhu because they have an apocalyptic feel to them.

If it does not work you suggest I just by the core sets and then mix all the cards together to make massive treasure and door piles? Or is there some set mixing formula that says " hey to effectively mix two munchkin sets together you should have xyz cards in there"?

The Set Mixing Formula is Munchkin 7 Cheat with Both Hands.

jdelcarp89 05-23-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandonson112 (Post 1583915)
The Set Mixing Formula is Munchkin 7 Cheat with Both Hands.

I'm not sure I understand. Sorry, I'm very new to this.


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