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Moldon 01-12-2013 12:04 AM

You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands (M7) and Death
 
Will this card work with Items which is not in use?
Will this card work will work when I die?

Clipper 01-12-2013 02:11 AM

Re: You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands (M7) and Death
 
The card says it makes all the qualifying Items immune, so it wouldn't matter if they were in use or not.

Given the name of the card, I have to assume it does not protect the Items from Death, even if that Death came from a curse or Bad Stuff. I can't say I've seen a ruling to officially back up this viewpoint, but I think the title is enough to prove the intent of the card.

Edit: I thought of a better argument as to why the card doesn't protect the Items from loss when you die. Nothing is protecting You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands from Death. Thus, when you die, the card ceases to have any effect, so it definitely can't protect Items any more.

MunchkinMan 02-04-2013 12:38 PM

Re: You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands (M7) and Death
 
It protects qualifying Items which are not in use because it says "all Items," not "all Items in use."

And, it doesn't protect from looting due to death or theft, especially since it says that it protects against Traps, Curses (redundant, but clear), and Bad Stuff.

Sabin 02-28-2014 04:48 AM

Re: You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands (M7) and Death
 
For clarification, here is a specific scenario.

I have You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands, and the Guy Wire (usable only by males, which I am). I just died as the result of a monster's Bad Stuff.

1. Does YTAMTWYPIFMCDH protect the Wire from looting?

2. Does YTAM protect the Wire from getting discarded if not looted?

3. Can YTAM be looted?

4. Does YTAM itself get discarded if not looted?

Thanks!

Clipper 02-28-2014 02:01 PM

Re: You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands (M7) and Death
 
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Originally Posted by Sabin (Post 1731479)
For clarification, here is a specific scenario.

I have You'll Take Away My Toy When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Hands, and the Guy Wire (usable only by males, which I am). I just died as the result of a monster's Bad Stuff.

1. Does YTAMTWYPIFMCDH protect the Wire from looting?

No. Your friends are able to pry those toys from your cold, dead hands.

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2. Does YTAM protect the Wire from getting discarded if not looted?
No, it does not protect it.

Quote:

3. Can YTAM be looted?
Yes. It is a card that is in play, so it qualifies as a card somebody can loot from your corpse. It goes into their hand if they do.

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4. Does YTAM itself get discarded if not looted?
Yes, it gets discarded.


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