[DF] Udead ....a book that I would like to have.
 

I think a book that focuses on undead for use with dungeon delving would be very useful for me. I think it could have rules for corporeal and spiritual undead and give some life draining nasty oowers to them. It could also go into the details of their lairs with lots of ideas for tricks, traps and curses. Maybe their could be some random tables for generating undead with powers and weaknesses? I think that undead need their own book as do faeries, spirits, demons and Elder Things.

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See here for a similar thread on the subject.

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They have made GURPS DF Undead? I don't think so.

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You're right, they haven't. Point being?

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Is it wrong that I saw the threat title and thought of doing exactly that?

On topic however, I'll reiterate the point that is made whenever a thread like this is made - which is "You seem to have a really good idea of what you want, have you considered writing an article or even a book on this?". Of cause, just like the thread, this has all be covered already. I'm not sure what else to say.

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And, "I'd be happy to help, but I'm not going to do it for you."

Though, now that I'm thinking of undead, maybe I'll sketch out a random undead generator and see what happens...

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That wont really be what bdog wants though, or at least from what I can tell from the numerous posts and threads discussing this.

I wouldn't object to undead dinosaurs though, as I refuse to use dinosaurs in my fantasy settings (DF included) as I feel they spoil the setting (you have dragons for a reason) - but digging up some bones and making undead ones is fine in my books.

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Yeah, I know. Mostly I'd do it for my own entertainment, not to give b-dog what b-dog wants. And since I don't play DF, it might take work to port it over...

My goal would be to set up the generator so it produced templates that could be added to any base creature. So undead dinosaurs would be yours with a few rolls of the dice...

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I can see the idea being used in one of two ways.

1) A second entry into the DF Monsters series which focuses on non-living foes.

2) A second DF adventure which includes a lot of undead. Mirror of The Fire Demon did a good job of introducing creatures (which are used in the adventure,) and I think an undead-centric adventure would work well as both a second adventure and a product through which more undead could be introduced.

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Any particular types of undead you'd like to see?

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I'd be happy to see either of those released. I'd actually like a DFM that includes creatures by category (undead, faerie, spirit) as I am a little unclear still on their differences as intended. I know, it is GURPS and it can be whatever I want. I'd still like some examples, as the distinction is sometimes made, but not well elucidated (to my knowledge) (in the DF series at least).

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Arise chicken, arise...

I was looking through various products to see what manner of undead are already available for Dungeon Fantasy.

Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 1
Draug
Draug Lord (in a sidebar which mentions how to make a Draug tougher)
Horrid Skull (has a sidebar which gives guidelines for making a Lich Skull)
Lich Skull (see above)
Lich
Undead Slime
Ghostly*
Undead*

*Ghostly and Undead are modifiers which can be used to make undead versions of other creatures. Ghostly -as you might guess- makes ghostly versions of the creatures; Undead makes zombie versions of the baselines creatures.


Dungeon Fantasy 2: Dungeons
Flaming Skull
Horde Zombie


Mirror of The Fire Demon
Dehydrated Horde Zombie
Skeleton
Skeleton, Large


Did I miss any?

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Lesser Ghost
Major Ghost
Servitor Skeleton
Servitor Zombie

From DF 9: Summoners.

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Would there be interest in a DF Monsters book which collected all of those together in one place, but then also introduced new creatures?

I'm trying to gauge how desirable (or undesirable) it would be to have some of the material be old material, but collected into one place.

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If there was at least 50% new material I don't think I'd mind a collection. Especially if there were new ways to use old stuff mixed in with the old.

I'm more interested in a collection of equipment tables though. It can be rough going for a group of PCs who want to shop for new gear to scramble through so many books.

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Isn't this exactly what DF8 does already? I'd admit I wouldn't mind seeing a DF 16: Plentiful Loot, as a follow up to Treasure Tables though, as more treasure options and ideas are always nice. I'd not complain if it then included a repeat of everything that's scattered about in other locations than DF8 too (including the stuff from DF1!), so you'd just have two books you needed to look at.

Overall though I'm not sure what else there is to add here though, unlike when you diversify your monster selection where you might need rules to cover the subtle changes you're making - loot is much more straight forwards and DF8 covers a lot of ground already. Short of making a second book like DF6 (which is great for ideas and "epics" but poor for pricing them), that is.

As for undead, I'd much rather more generic spread of monsters like DFM1 before we get into the grounds of collections and purist supplements. I'm hoping to get at least a dozen 'generic' monster books before we start with the themed ones, as although its nice to have a book on just one narrow band - when it comes down to it I'd rather have more variety so I can include that variety in my game.

Otherwise you end up feeling the need (or having few other choices when short on time but wanting to use new monsters) to run 'The Misty and Dark Halls of the Skeleton Kings Vampiric Scholar' dungeon adventure right after you ran 'The Long Forgotten Back Fields of the Skeleton Kings Zombie Gardener!' because all you've got is ready made undead monsters.

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Are any more monster books in the offing?