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rust 01-16-2013 11:32 AM

Re: Zhodani without Psi
 
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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1505851)
Intelligence needs to be defined first, then sensibly measured long before its genetic components can be properly studied, in my opinion.

To quote my favourite psychology teacher, intelligence is what is measured
by the intelligence test one is using, and each of the currently used tests
measures something different, depending on the author's personal definition
of intelligence ...

Flyndaran 01-16-2013 02:31 PM

Re: Zhodani without Psi
 
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Originally Posted by rust (Post 1508016)
To quote my favourite psychology teacher, intelligence is what is measured
by the intelligence test one is using, and each of the currently used tests
measures something different, depending on the author's personal definition
of intelligence ...

They were invented to identify those needing extra help. But so many have misused it to push some really stupid agendas.
That makes me wonder if the Zho have competing tests for determining the power/value of psychic powers.

cptbutton 01-16-2013 05:55 PM

Re: Zhodani without Psi
 
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Originally Posted by Peter Knutsen (Post 1507889)
I did some thinking, more than a decade ago, about various forms of machine aided pseudo-psi (eventually, with great skill, doable even without machines), using subliminal communications and so forth. One of the ideas I had was that you'd "test" someone who exposing him or her to a subliminal stimuli, and noting the reaction (physiology and so forth). In theory, it'd be possible to "interrogate" someone that way, by showing them things that they are expected to react to in one particular fashion if they are good citizens, and so if they fail to react correctly in several cases, you know you've caught a thought-criminal

That is roughly what the Voight-Kampf machines do in Bladerunner. They measure emotional reactions to questions, and the operators know how the reactions of replicants tend to differ from those of born-men.

Peter Knutsen 01-25-2013 11:38 AM

Re: Zhodani without Psi
 
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Originally Posted by cptbutton (Post 1508164)
That is roughly what the Voight-Kampf machines do in Bladerunner. They measure emotional reactions to questions, and the operators know how the reactions of replicants tend to differ from those of born-men.

Sure, but the questions are asked out loud, which takes multiple seconds per question and gives the test subject the opportunity to try to control his reactions so as to fake being a "good human".

Toltrin 01-29-2013 11:55 AM

Re: Zhodani without Psi
 
I guess we can have Arnold Schwarzenegger movies with out muscles...


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