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Rasputin 12-13-2012 07:56 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PK (Post 1491804)
Yes it did. In the first D&D boxed set, you could be a "fighter" or a "thief" as a human -- or "elf." Being a nonhuman was treated as a character class. It wasn't until AD&D that "races" and "classes" became different things.
Nope. It wasn't until the Holmes Basic in 1977 that Basic D&D had races (what I meant, PK had the right idea) as classes. The original 1974 wooden box did not have that. A common misconception.

GnomesofZurich 12-13-2012 08:02 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
I'm very impressed by this issue. It seems to have something for everyone, and addresses some things that have come up in the forums, such as certain people's desire for 'races as classes', and (perhaps?) concerns I raised about a Demonologist who didn't feel useful due to a limited spell list.

So that I can make use of the entire issue I may need to break down and pick up Pyramid #10 (I think) for the Justicar, #47 for the Monster Slaver and DF #14 for the Mentalist. Oh, and DF Monsters I. I've fallen behind a bit.

I regretted picking up Pyramid #46, but this issue does not disappoint at all.

Kromm 12-13-2012 08:03 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Anyway . . . why is anybody even debating the race/class point? My words in the article are these:
At the dawn of tabletop RPGs, "race" and "class" weren't separate concepts, selected independently of one another.
Whether you want to call it 1977 or 1974, that's still "the dawn of RPGs." I specifically didn't say, "In the very first RPG ever" or "In the RPG we know today as D&D." And for good reason, I should add. :P

If you want to pick nits, pick on the fact that "justiciar" is misspelled "justicar" in three places. ;)

Peter V. Dell'Orto 12-13-2012 08:51 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromm (Post 1491825)
Anyway . . . why is anybody even debating the race/class point? My words in the article are these:
At the dawn of tabletop RPGs, "race" and "class" weren't separate concepts, selected independently of one another.
Whether you want to call it 1977 or 1974, that's still "the dawn of RPGs." I specifically didn't say, "In the very first RPG ever" or "In the RPG we know today as D&D." And for good reason, I should add. :P
Look, if you restrict yourself to debating the actual words, you're severely limiting yourself. Much like demi-humans at the dawn of RPGs. ;)

Flyndaran 12-13-2012 09:05 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog (Post 1491852)
Look, if you restrict yourself to debating the actual words, you're severely limiting yourself. Much like demi-humans at the dawn of RPGs. ;)
Where'd those goal posts go? They were here a minute ago. Never can keep track of them on this here internet.

Langy 12-13-2012 09:17 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostdancer (Post 1491769)
I don't play DF often but when I do...The assassin power-ups are going to gain some mileage in my non-DF settings. I liked the snowmen article as well - funnily enough I just wrote up some snow-ninja's for a upcoming game session. Might swap it out for this instead.

Overall a great issue. :-)
Naw. Have both snowmen and snow-ninjas. Or snow-ninja-men.

Peter V. Dell'Orto 12-13-2012 09:27 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langy (Post 1491860)
Naw. Have both snowmen and snow-ninjas. Or snow-ninja-men.
Clearly, the snow-ninjas use the animated snowmen as guards and shock troops.

You know, I should have worked in a line in the article about the best way to destroy the snowmen's hats being with a holy chakram . . .

Christopher R. Rice 12-13-2012 09:40 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langy (Post 1491860)
Naw. Have both snowmen and snow-ninjas. Or snow-ninja-men.
I call them sninjas >_>

NightHawk 12-13-2012 10:28 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostdancer (Post 1491868)
I call them sninjas >_>

But even better is Sninjas FROM HELL! lol sorry i couldn't resist I really love this issue. It gives a bit of flare and while i am not running a DF right now more a Men in Black Sci-Fi type campaign.... picture it you come into the office and standing guard over the door is two Yeti, when you take that trip across the universe to save it.... and you encounter Abdominal Snowmen form HELL.... now that gets interesting.

Christopher R. Rice 12-13-2012 10:30 PM
Re: [New Release] Pyramid #3/50: Dungeon Fantasy II
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Langy (Post 1491860)
Naw. Have both snowmen and snow-ninjas. Or snow-ninja-men.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NightHawk (Post 1491885)
But even better is Sninjas FROM HELL! lol sorry i couldn't resist I really love this issue. It gives a bit of flare and while i am not running a DF right now more a Men in Black Sci-Fi type campaign.... picture it you come into the office and standing guard over the door is two Yeti, when you take that trip across the universe to save it.... and you encounter Abdominal Snowmen form HELL.... now that gets interesting.
>_> ....I'm in.


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