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timur 12-02-2012 07:38 PM

One-shot cards and Charity
 
During Charity, if I have more than five cards, and some of them are one-shot items, can I just put those cards in the play area? That is, can I keep one-shot items in the play area even if I'm not using them?

Clipper 12-02-2012 07:49 PM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
You can play any Item to the table at any point during your turn, except during combat. Thus, yes, you can play One-Shot Items to the table to avoid giving cards as Charity.

The only Items you can't play in this manner are Item Enhancers (those that attach to another Item) and those you can't legally have (such as a second Big Item).

Potted Plant 12-29-2012 06:44 PM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
Oh wow -- so you can carry one-shot items like the Magic Missile or the Potion of Invisibility, say?

We'd been playing that those had to stay in your hand. This could change our charity routines quite a bit (although, admittedly, we always manage to give away junky charity anyway....)

EDIT: Looked just a little further, and the answer to my question is Yes. Found the answer here: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=95229

Enzzo 12-31-2012 08:36 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
Yep :) I think that's part of the reason you are allowed to carry those Items on the table, so that you don't have to give them away as Charity.

Do note that a card that does not have a value in Gold Pieces (or the words "No Value") is not an Item, and cannot be carried this way. This includes GUAL cards.

DigitalRob 12-31-2012 06:43 PM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
I'm new to Munchkin, so I could be wrong, but on the Munchkinland Podcast I'm pretty sure I heard them say that only items with gold value can be carried and not in use. Other one-shot treasures must be kept in your hand.



Quote:

Originally Posted by timur (Post 1485500)
During Charity, if I have more than five cards, and some of them are one-shot items, can I just put those cards in the play area? That is, can I keep one-shot items in the play area even if I'm not using them?

Edit --- Okay, I just noticed that this question has been answered. I'm still getting used to the format of the forum. Sorry.

MunchkinMan 12-31-2012 10:28 PM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalRob (Post 1498836)
I'm new to Munchkin, so I could be wrong, but on the Munchkinland Podcast I'm pretty sure I heard them say that only items with gold value can be carried and not in use. Other one-shot treasures must be kept in your hand.

I do not honestly know about the podcast you mention, but I do know that Steve Jackson, Andrew, his current minion, and I give official responses to questions. If none of them were associated with that podcast, then nothing said can be taken as official unless they stated they were quoting one of us. One-shot items are Items, and the rules say you can carry any Item, and that you can play one-shot Items from those in play in front of you or from your hand.

Dave81j6 01-02-2013 02:14 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
Using One-Shot Items:

Can a player can use any of their one-shot items during any combat regardless of where, or how their card was situated when combat began? For instance, is there a difference in playing one-shot items from a player's horizontal position (carried/not in-use,) vs. vertical position (carried/in-use,) vs. their in-hand position?

Thanks in advance,

Bampop 01-02-2013 06:29 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
There's no difference in how you play them. Also, to be clear, since one-shots aren't actually in use (that is, they aren't affecting your combat strength) until you play them, they don't need to be turned sideways. (I usually still turn them sideways, but it isn't necessary.)

1b2a 01-02-2013 09:45 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
So no value items (like GUALs) can be put on the field? The rules define items as cards with gold value. There are various cards without any marking for gold value that we don't allow on the field when we play. Is that wrong? What about cards saying 0 gold and "no value"?

Bampop 01-02-2013 10:09 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
No. When people refer to "No Value" they are speaking specifically about Items with "No Value" printed on the card where Gold Pieces would go. "No Value" should be treated as "Zero Gold Pieces."

Other treasures such as GUALs are not Items and may not be carried on the table.

MunchkinMan 01-02-2013 10:16 AM

Re: One-shot cards and Charity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1b2a (Post 1499393)
So no value items (like GUALs) can be put on the field? The rules define items as cards with gold value. There are various cards without any marking for gold value that we don't allow on the field when we play. Is that wrong? What about cards saying 0 gold and "no value"?

GUAL cards are not Items. Normally, the only cards you can put into play and keep in play after they are played are Races, Classes, Items, and Treasure cards that give a persistent combat bonus (e.g., Hireling). Items very specifically must have a gold piece value on them, which includes the phrase "No Value." I can not currently recall an Item which says it is worth 0 GP.


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