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jason taylor 01-01-2015 07:01 PM

Re: 'Imperial Culture' (non-canonista)
 
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Originally Posted by Agemegos (Post 1852862)
But the knight in shining armour is itself not a global image. It's unfamiliar in the far East and most of Africa, alien in India and Pakistan, hostile in the Near Eastů. An image doesn't have to be as iconic and quintessential as that. Besides, the worlds of the Imperium share a thousand years of Imperial history with Imperial marines in it, mostly on their side.

Indians have the Kshatriya. Who also by coincidence wore shinning armor if not as much.

Voltron64 01-05-2015 02:58 PM

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Law Level Clarifications

Law level typically refers to arms control in the society, not how restrictive it is overall, exceptions withstanding.

Portable energy weapons (Law Level 2) refer to things like FGMPs and PGMPs. Laser Pistols and Carbines are considered more as light assault weapons (Law Level 4) with Laser Rifles as automatic weapons (Law Level 3).

jason taylor 01-05-2015 05:41 PM

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Venturers Guild Badge:

This is the logo of one traders guild. It is a triangle with a silver stag on the bottom, and a crossed silver caudaucus and spear with a stylized starship carrying a silver key in the middle. On a dark blue field. With the motto pete tibi tradere in divitiis in procul fera custodire ab armis (seek your wealth in the far wild to keep by your gallant arms).

The caudaucus represents Mercury of course, the spear represents Mars, the stag, Diana, and the key Pluto. The starship speaks for itself. And the motto is another way of saying, "a ship gets you a cargo, a gun helps you keep it".

Drifter 01-05-2015 06:03 PM

Re: 'Imperial Culture' (non-canonista)
 
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Originally Posted by Voltron64 (Post 1855376)
Law Level Clarifications

Law level typically refers to arms control in the society, not how restrictive it is overall, exceptions withstanding.

Portable energy weapons (Law Level 2) refer to things like FGMPs and PGMPs. Laser Pistols and Carbines are considered more as light assault weapons (Law Level 4) with Laser Rifles as automatic weapons (Law Level 3).

I've always used it as both a guide to weapons AND how likely it is you'll have to talk to an official; i.e. how restrictive. With Exceptions.

Drifter 01-05-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jason taylor (Post 1855435)
Venturers Guild Badge:

This is the logo of one traders guild. It is a triangle with a silver stag on the bottom, and a crossed silver caudaucus and spear with a stylized starship carrying a silver key in the middle. On a dark blue field. With the motto pete tibi tradere in divitiis in procul fera custodire ab armis (seek your wealth in the far wild to keep by your gallant arms).

The caudaucus represents Mercury of course, the spear represents Mars, the stag, Diana, and the key Pluto. The starship speaks for itself. And the motto is another way of saying, "a ship gets you a cargo, a gun helps you keep it".

Thats some motto to embroider on your jacket :)

jason taylor 01-05-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifter (Post 1855439)
Thats some motto to embroider on your jacket :)

It is from a place with a tradition of micro-heraldry just to begin with. Another way is to put half the words on top and half on bottom. Or in a circle around. And in a full size flag or similar there would not be a problem. And of course only the Latin is meant to be shown on the logo, not the translation. Which requires only eleven words.

Hans Rancke-Madsen 01-05-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jason taylor (Post 1855466)
It is from a place with a tradition of micro-heraldry just to begin with. Another way is to put half the words on top and half on bottom. Or in a circle around. And in a full size flag or similar there would not be a problem. And of course only the Latin is meant to be shown on the logo, not the translation. Which requires only eleven words.

Such homilies are usually abbreviated for mottos. I'm not well enough versed in Latin to work it out, but I'd expect the actual motto to be the Latin for "Ship gets, gun keeps".


Hans

jason taylor 01-05-2015 11:34 PM

Re: 'Imperial Culture' (non-canonista)
 
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Originally Posted by Hans Rancke-Madsen (Post 1855552)
Such homilies are usually abbreviated for mottos. I'm not well enough versed in Latin to work it out, but I'd expect the actual motto to be the Latin for "Ship gets, gun keeps".


Hans

How about:

comitiis per navigatione, per arma custodiunt

(gain by voyage, keep by arms)

Astromancer 01-25-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hans Rancke-Madsen (Post 1279465)
The USA probably does get a disproportionate amount of attention for one reason: it's influence on the development of the Imperial bill of rights, which is derived from that of the Sylean Federation, which is derived from that of the Rule of Man, which is derived from that of the Terran Confederation, which is derived from the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Even disproportionate attention does not necessarily amount to very much, though.


Hans

If I haven't said it earlier, I'll say it now, the USA would be seen in a negative light by the 3I. Our virtues are scary to them, our good stuff a threat, and our vices all to easy for an Imperial Aristocratic Society to line up and mock ferociously. If nothing else they can steal all the wittiest attacks the French, Brits, and Germans, have made on us and recycle them.

Astromancer 01-25-2015 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jason taylor (Post 1280027)
If I recall Taoism was sort of a tangential creed having a cultural position similar to mendicants in the West and dervishes in Islam. A Taoist priest might get an invitation from an Emperor but wouldn't become a court priest.

My memory could be wrong though.

I say your menory is good.


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