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capnq 04-08-2021 09:53 AM

Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
If it is, then my Fake News Sites promo card makes it much harder for The Bermuda Triangle to meet its Special Goal.

fwcain 04-08-2021 03:33 PM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Which version of Illuminati are you playing?

If I recall correctly, the promo card you referred to was for INWO, in which case the term "Media" is an Attribute (not an Alignment).

Franklin

capnq 04-09-2021 12:35 PM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fwcain (Post 2374894)
Which version of Illuminati are you playing?

If I recall correctly, the promo card you referred to was for INWO, in which case the term "Media" is an Attribute (not an Alignment).

Deluxe. Fake News Sites is the only Media card in my deck; I think it's Second Edition.

fwcain 04-09-2021 01:01 PM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Check the back of the promo card. Does it say "Illuminati New World Order"? Or does it match the cards in the box set you are playing?

Also, where did you get this promo card?

For the time being, I recommend you presume that Media is just an Attribute (and not an Alignment). Especially if your rules book does not mention Media at all (which would be the case if this promo card actually is for INWO instead of "regular" Illuminati)...

Hope this helps.
Franklin

capnq 04-10-2021 02:26 PM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fwcain (Post 2375036)
Check the back of the promo card. Does it say "Illuminati New World Order"? Or does it match the cards in the box set you are playing?

No & no. It has a mushroom cloud on a yellow background.

Quote:

Also, where did you get this promo card?
In a shipment from SJGames.

MIB 9966 04-13-2021 07:59 AM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
I'm not sure what's going on here, but there seems to be confusion over the changes between the two editions, and it is pretty major.

In the Second Edition, Media is an alignment now and Communist and Government were removed, which meant a number of changes to cards and the Discordian Society's rules, including replacing several groups.

The yellow mushroom cloud back is the Second Edition backing so unless it matches your set and you're somehow missing a bunch of Media aligned cards, you need to get a copy of the Second Edition to use the promo.

fwcain 04-13-2021 09:26 AM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MIB 9966 (Post 2375423)
In the Second Edition, Media is an alignment now and Communist and Government were removed, which meant a number of changes to cards and the Discordian Society's rules, including replacing several groups.

Good to know!

Thanks,
Franklin

capnq 04-13-2021 02:04 PM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MIB 9966 (Post 2375423)
The yellow mushroom cloud back is the Second Edition backing so unless it matches your set and you're somehow missing a bunch of Media aligned cards, you need to get a copy of the Second Edition to use the promo.

I don't see how that follows. Mixing sets is a time-honored tradition.

MIB 9966 04-15-2021 11:19 AM

Re: Illuminati-Is Media an alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by capnq (Post 2375474)
I don't see how that follows. Mixing sets is a time-honored tradition.

You may want to read through the Designer Notes on this http://www.sjgames.com/illuminati/notes.html

It's a Second Edition, so unlike every previous set, it is not compatible with the previous versions because as noted, Media is a new alignment and Communist and Government are no longer part of the sets, so trying to mix them will not work since a number of cards (and specifically the Discordian Society itself) have been reworked to reflect the changes to the Alignments available.

It's not an expansion, it's its own set, and the Alternative Truths and 2020 expansions are also designed for the Second Edition as well, so you can't incorporate those into the older edition either.


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