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Flyndaran 08-31-2019 11:31 AM

Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, or how I should phrase things.
(Mods please adjust to make things clearer if needed.)

But here's a link to a group of professionals that got together to as accurately as possible test period made arrows and arrowheads shot by a 160 lbs longbow against armor that was of the type worn by knights at the battle of Agincourt.

They even tested the armor against both unhardened and case hardened arrowheads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaE

ak_aramis 08-31-2019 04:20 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
I love the discussion (around 7:25) of why they only tried 160 lb draw... the thing is, up to 200 lb bows have been recovered. And the archers had what would have been visible differences in bone due to the near-constant high-draw bows. At 13 min, they explain their testing rig.

Your link, BTW, goes to the last couple shots...

Flyndaran 08-31-2019 04:49 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
Whoops. Would it be in bad form to change the link to the beginning? Or does it not really matter?

Anaraxes 08-31-2019 05:01 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
I was interested to see how much the archer's stance was distorted by his 160-lb bow. Watch him in the shots far enough back that you can see him standing, and notice how oddly bent he is, forward and to his right. Then once he releases, you can see him stand up to his normal posture.

Flyndaran 08-31-2019 05:31 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
To my layman's eyes, he stands like some of the art depictions of archers that I always considered unrealistic stylized imagery.

WingedKagouti 09-01-2019 05:01 AM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
I expect his stance is at least partially to ensure that his legs don't come into contact with the bow.

ak_aramis 09-01-2019 12:41 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 2282318)
Whoops. Would it be in bad form to change the link to the beginning? Or does it not really matter?

It's worth correcting.

I really think they need to do a few shots with the 200 LB bow.

Anthony 09-01-2019 12:46 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ak_aramis (Post 2282450)
I really think they need to do a few shots with the 200 LB bow.

None of the 160 lb shots were anywhere close to penetrating, 200 lb might give you some deeper dents but that's about it.

ak_aramis 09-01-2019 01:07 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 2282453)
None of the 160 lb shots were anywhere close to penetrating, 200 lb might give you some deeper dents but that's about it.

Keep in mind, steel penetration isn't directly linear, and sufficiently deep dents break bones and/or cause metal fatigue.

Flyndaran 09-01-2019 01:34 PM

Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ak_aramis (Post 2282450)
It's worth correcting.

Link corrected to be at the beginning of the video. That was much harder than I expected.


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