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awesomenessofme1 02-14-2020 01:09 PM

Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
1) Does the +1 skill apply to Parry Missile Weapons if you're using the weapon?
2) Does the +1 skill increase your skill for the purpose of determining Parry score?
3) Does the +1 skill count for the purpose of crossing skill thresholds for damage boosts with Weapon Master?

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the answer to 1 is yes and 3 is no, but I'm genuinely unsure about 2 and interested in other people's opinions on the others.

DangerousThing 02-14-2020 01:45 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
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Originally Posted by awesomenessofme1 (Post 2309395)
1) Does the +1 skill apply to Parry Missile Weapons if you're using the weapon?
2) Does the +1 skill increase your skill for the purpose of determining Parry score?
3) Does the +1 skill count for the purpose of crossing skill thresholds for damage boosts with Weapon Master?

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the answer to 1 is yes and 3 is no, but I'm genuinely unsure about 2 and interested in other people's opinions on the others.

I'd go with yes, yes, and no.

I'm not sure about the RAW on 1, but I'd allow it. The main reason I say no for number three is bookkeeping.

whswhs 02-14-2020 02:33 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
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Originally Posted by DangerousThing (Post 2309400)
I'd go with yes, yes, and no.

I'd agree with yes, yes, no. If it's specified as a "skill threshold," it seems to me that the Weapon Bond effect isn't higher skill; it's an external bonus to skill.

Celjabba 02-14-2020 05:11 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
2 is yes kromm post : http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...22&postcount=5

3 is no, kromm post : http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...21&postcount=5

awesomenessofme1 02-14-2020 05:28 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
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Originally Posted by Celjabba (Post 2309444)

Those phrasings seem a bit contradictory, but they're close enough together chronologically to think he didn't change his mind, so that's what I'll go with. Point 3 turned out to be moot anyway.

Varyon 02-14-2020 06:30 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with the bonus from Weapon Bond increasing your damage with a weapon for which you also have Weapon Master. It's quite the edge case - the chance someone will have Weapon Master, yet not be sufficiently skilled with their favorite weapon for the full bonus, strikes me as low (it would likely only show up if forced to use the weapon with a different skill than usual, such as a katana-user who favors Two-Handed Sword finding himself having to rely on the -4 default to Broadsword) - but by the Wendler-Dell'Orto Rule of Awesome*, having a character deal more damage with their favorite weapon is quite acceptable. I could have sworn there was a Power-Up in DF to get this anyway (essentially importing DnD's Weapon Specialization Class Feature), but can't find it; presumably, it would have Weapon Bond as a Prerequisite, and be built as something like Striking ST (Single Weapon -60%) [2]/level.

*From Pyramid #3/44. "Anything that enhances the potential for something to be Awesome is good. If what youíre doing isnít Awesome, stop doing it and do something else."

Donny Brook 02-14-2020 07:06 PM

Re: Some random questions about Weapon Bond
 
I too would rule
yes
yes
no.

Weapon Master damage boosts come when you "know the skill". Weapon Bond gives you a +1 on effective skill.


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