Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > GURPS

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-29-2012, 03:19 AM   #31
sir_pudding
Wielder of Smart Pants
 
sir_pudding's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguebfl View Post
In Babylon 5 Zack Allen to G'kar Daffy Duck the Egyptian god of Frustration.
I recall him saying Daffy was the god of Frustration, but not a specifically Egyptian one. Regardless, I am unaware if I am, in fact, a descendant of Daffy Duck. At any rate, my supernatural nature and it's overall relationship to fear of rabbits is probably way off topic for this thread, as I am in no way cute.
sir_pudding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 08:39 AM   #32
Ulzgoroth
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_pudding View Post
Wouldn't you still need Universal to make it species neutral?
Animal cuteness probably isn't species-neutral. It's appearance vs. the dominant species (humans), which is one of the two options you can get out of unmodified Appearance. The other being appearance vs. your own kind.
__________________
I don't know any 3e, so there is no chance that I am talking about 3e rules by accident.
Ulzgoroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 08:58 AM   #33
Flyndaran
Untagged
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth View Post
Animal cuteness probably isn't species-neutral. It's appearance vs. the dominant species (humans), which is one of the two options you can get out of unmodified Appearance. The other being appearance vs. your own kind.
Mammals find juvenile characteristics cute, and most mammals have similar juvenile characteristics; large eyes, round flat-ish faces, etc.
So it's a big more encompassing that just one species.
__________________
Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.
Flyndaran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 09:02 AM   #34
whswhs
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyndaran View Post
Mammals find juvenile characteristics cute, and most mammals have similar juvenile characteristics; large eyes, round flat-ish faces, etc.
So it's a big more encompassing that just one species.
A cat, weasel, or coyote would cheerfully eat a cute little bunny.

Bill Stoddard
whswhs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 09:07 AM   #35
Flyndaran
Untagged
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by whswhs View Post
A cat, weasel, or coyote would cheerfully eat a cute little bunny.

Bill Stoddard
Many humans eat rabbits, cats, lambs, etc.
The sound of stomach growling beats the "dawwww" any day.
__________________
Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.
Flyndaran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 09:39 AM   #36
whswhs
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyndaran View Post
Many humans eat rabbits, cats, lambs, etc.
Yes, but a lot of them wouldn't kill them. One of my players likes to tell the story of being at the zoo when the tiger cubs were being fedólive ratsóand a mother had brought her young children to see it, apparently not realizing what the meal would be.

Bill Stoddard
whswhs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 09:57 AM   #37
Flyndaran
Untagged
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by whswhs View Post
Yes, but a lot of them wouldn't kill them. One of my players likes to tell the story of being at the zoo when the tiger cubs were being fedólive ratsóand a mother had brought her young children to see it, apparently not realizing what the meal would be.

Bill Stoddard
That has far more to do with modern people being squeamish about their meat coming from formerly living animals, in my opinion.
I doubt those people would feel any differently if they saw what happens in a slaughterhouse every day.
Besides, wild animals have been known to adopt juveniles of other species even of food animals. Rarely, but it does happen.
I have no problem believing that human level intelligence mammals would exhibit similar love of the cute as we do.
__________________
Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.
Flyndaran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 10:04 AM   #38
Mgellis
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Flushing, Michigan
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by combatmedic View Post
Yes...for many baby animals, Attractive + Pitiable = Cute, but what do you about something that is UGLY but still cute? Pitiable by itself will do the trick, I suppose, as Attractive only gives you a +1 anyway. I guess, as a few other people have said, perhaps Social Regard (Baby Animal) does the trick.

And, yes, it only goes so far...perhaps Professional Skill (Butcher) includes a bonus to Will rolls against the cuteness of baby animals? :) Bestial would include it, too, I imagine (and at IQ 5 or less, such things probably do not even matter).
Mgellis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 10:06 AM   #39
Mgellis
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Flushing, Michigan
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by combatmedic View Post
Yes...for many baby animals, Attractive + Pitiable = Cute, but what do you about something that is UGLY but still cute? Pitiable by itself will do the trick, I suppose, as Attractive only gives you a +1 anyway. I guess, as a few other people have said, perhaps Social Regard (Baby Animal) does the trick.

And, yes, it only goes so far...perhaps Professional Skill (Butcher) includes a bonus to Will rolls against the cuteness of baby animals? :) Bestial would include it, too, I imagine (and at IQ 5 or less, such things probably do not even matter).

I wonder if you can buy Pitiable 2 [10], which would give you a +6 instead of +3? This would cover "so adorable I think my head will explode." (I think one of my cats has this. It would certainly explain certain things...like why we haven't sold her to someone else for chewing/clawing up some of the things she has chewed/clawed up.) Any thoughts on this?

Maybe "Ugly but so cute that there is no negative reaction modifier" [-1] is a fair quirk...you're ugly enough to be noticed, but something about you is cute enough that people don't fear you or dislike you or feel especially repulsed by you. This, combined with Pitiable, makes you almost as cute as a kitten.

Last edited by Mgellis; 04-29-2012 at 10:15 AM.
Mgellis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 10:13 AM   #40
Flyndaran
Untagged
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
Default Re: Cuteness

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mgellis View Post
Yes...for many baby animals, Attractive + Pitiable = Cute, but what do you about something that is UGLY but still cute? Pitiable by itself will do the trick, I suppose, as Attractive only gives you a +1 anyway. I guess, as a few other people have said, perhaps Social Regard (Baby Animal) does the trick.

And, yes, it only goes so far...perhaps Professional Skill (Butcher) includes a bonus to Will rolls against the cuteness of baby animals? :) Bestial would include it, too, I imagine (and at IQ 5 or less, such things probably do not even matter).
What does cute mean as far as required actions of viewers really mean?
Most people would not endanger themselves for a cute animal not otherwise considered a socially recognized pet species like cats and dogs for westerners.
Wild animals have been observed rescuing juveniles of other species even when they have to go out of their way to do it. Honestly, how often are wild animals in a situation to care about cute?


I doubt butchers are immune to cute. They just partition their jobs from daily life, like how most refuse to give food animals names in effect de-animalizing them... to search for a similar term to dehumanizing that takes place in war.
Just because the anti-cute modifiers overwhelm the cute ones doesn't make the cute ones go away.
__________________
Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.
Flyndaran is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bunny, cute

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.