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Old 04-07-2011, 10:45 AM   #11
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<shrug> Those lists just make crap up. The inability to produce historicallly accurate lsits of greater "depth" than we have is the reasons those lists don't exist in Gurps.

Even when you can find historical price lists, half the time you can't be quite sure what the item listed actually _is_. Even whn you can get a decent ahndle on the item you can't find other examples to verify that thsi was indeed an "average" much less "generic" and "universal" price for that item.

As to your examples, tools have highly varying prices, mostly based on weight and dificulty of construction.

Clothing (professional or otherwise) usually costs the same as other clothing of the same weight and quality unless decorated.

I would have thought low tech survival equipment was adequately covered. You've got knives, axes, rope and so forth mostly contained within the Personal and Group basics from Basic. Basic even pretends that you can "buy" poles at TL0 instead of having to cut your own off trees.

In this period, art supplies were not purchased. They were made by the artist from scratch. It was probably mid TL5 before you could go to a store and buy them.
a modern-day equivalent to illustrate why buying Low-Tech is a very good idea.
I had a Spectrum, in original box, "plus all the bells & whistles". Listed in an antiques catalogue as worth £150. In reality, some lousy dealer was chancing his arm that some idiot would pay that much. You could buy one on e-bay for £25. I gave mine away and 3 others. What should the list price be?
And then you need to ask, what's a "Spectrum"? How come I had 4 and different models at that.
If you want reliably consistent, updated, errata'd listings, buy the book. If you just want a crazy guess, compare it to how much it costs today. Free downloads? You get what you pay for, usually.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:41 AM   #12
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In this period, art supplies were not purchased. They were made by the artist from scratch. It was probably mid TL5 before you could go to a store and buy them.
However in a lot of societies in that tech range you could buy an Artist.

Just a point for consideration. I am not aware of a pricing system for indentured servants or slaves however.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:54 AM   #13
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I am not aware of a pricing system for indentured servants or slaves however.
Then read B.518 "Slaves" and correct this lapse of awarenes. :)
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:00 PM   #14
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<shrug> Those lists just make crap up. The inability to produce historicallly accurate lsits of greater "depth" than we have is the reasons those lists don't exist in Gurps.

Even when you can find historical price lists, half the time you can't be quite sure what the item listed actually _is_. Even whn you can get a decent ahndle on the item you can't find other examples to verify that thsi was indeed an "average" much less "generic" and "universal" price for that item.

As to your examples, tools have highly varying prices, mostly based on weight and dificulty of construction.

Clothing (professional or otherwise) usually costs the same as other clothing of the same weight and quality unless decorated.

I would have thought low tech survival equipment was adequately covered. You've got knives, axes, rope and so forth mostly contained within the Personal and Group basics from Basic. Basic even pretends that you can "buy" poles at TL0 instead of having to cut your own off trees.

In this period, art supplies were not purchased. They were made by the artist from scratch. It was probably mid TL5 before you could go to a store and buy them.
I disagree on this one: listing a price for masons tools would be no less subjective than the price of a comb or a bar of soap, and more useful in most adventures.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:00 PM   #15
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My players tend to be a bit 'creative' ... and often go looking for professional skill tools, clothings, survival equipment, ... art supplies (yes... art supplies), ...

I just was looking for a massive listing of equipment/tools/weapons that would have consistant stats (costs/weights).... there are plenty of lists on line from real lists (with real costs) to D&D lists, Palladium lists... but they all use different scales for costs, weights, bulk....
Honestly. Get Low-Tech and Dungeon Fantasy 8. Everything you just listed and more. There's a crazy amount of gear, supplies, mundane items (tons of art supplies)...

What is a Man-in-Black anyway?
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What is a Man-in-Black anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black There was even a couple movies about (one version of) them.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:16 PM   #17
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:16 PM   #18
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Sounds to me like you just want a free copy of Low-Tech. Personally I'm a little offended that you can't find $20 to help support a work that took several years to research, write, and playtest.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:01 PM   #19
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Sounds to me like you just want a free copy of Low-Tech. Personally I'm a little offended that you can't find $20 to help support a work that took several years to research, write, and playtest.
While I 100% agree that Low-Tech is a GREAT buy, more than worth the $20, I have to admit I ran across a similar problem the other day: there is no book detailing basic tool kits TL1-4 (Unless LT1 or LT3 have them - if they do, I apologize, I do not own those two). So Low-Tech does give information on a very wide variety of wonderful stuff, basic tool kits are completely left out, making the me improvise the loadouts for "professionals" from other RPG conversions.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:15 PM   #20
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there is no book detailing basic tool kits TL1-4
So the tool kits on p. 30 of Low Tech are insufficient?
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