Stun Guns

[Kuu]

I have two questions about stun guns.

First, can a stun gun cause unconsciousness if applied long enough?
Last, can the defender (the one that's shocked) scream or otherwise talk while being paralyzed?

It can be "by the book", but if there's anyone out there that has actually used one/seen one work, your help is appreciated.

Thank you.

EDIT: Another question. Do you need a license to buy one? I read that it's restricted in some states, but I don't know whether that just means you need a license, or if it's illegal...

[Phantasm]

Originally Posted by Kuu

I have two questions about stun guns.

First, can a stun gun cause unconsciousness if applied long enough?
Last, can the defender (the one that's shocked) scream or otherwise talk while being paralyzed?

It can be "by the book", but if there's anyone out there that has actually used one/seen one work, your help is appreciated.

Thank you.

EDIT: Another question. Do you need a license to buy one? I read that it's restricted in some states, but I don't know whether that just means you need a license, or if it's illegal...

In my experience, stun guns will cause unconsciousness is applied long enough. How long that is, I think, depends on the person involved (IOW, their HT scores). Whether the ones I witnessed were just folks with low tolerances who passed out from the extended shock is unknown. As a house rule for this, I'd rule that any HT roll failed by 5 or more will call for a second HT roll to stay conscious.

A person will sometimes scream involuntarily, but I believe talking is out of the question except in very high-HT situations.

In some states, it's illegal to own one. In others, you need a permit. Overall, I'd treat it as the same conditions as a conceal carry permit for those states in which it's restricted. Some people - due to Police or Military Rank, or Legal Enforcement Powers 2 or 3, or in some locales Status 2+ or Wealth (Filthy Rich or Multimillionaire) - will have have legal access to LC2 or even LC1 weaponry, either through the weapons being assigned to them or through the ability to grease palms via bribes and lawyers that make Johnny Cochrane look ethical. I'd look into the local laws for those regions to see how the stun gun is classified. All else fails, you can always require the character take the Permit Perk for the privilege to carry one.

[Refplace]

First it is important to know if you mean stun guns or tasers as they work differently and for some reason a lot of people mix them up.
Stun guns are applied directly to the body and not the kind that shoot darts.
Stun guns come in a variety of power levels.
I used to use a 75kv one on long trips when I needed to wake up.
Pulled over first of course and just zapped myself in the thigh for a good adrenaline rush. Only when I REALLY had to get home before dawn but it was handy once in awhile for that purpose.
For self defense it was useless but if I held it on you for several seconds you would start to lose control of your limbs and maybe pass out after a minute or something. Never used it on anyone that long but it was a good training tool.
About 250kv and up they start to be practical for self defense.
results vary but that would be my minimum.


Regardless you can hold on in contact for as long as you can hold the target and the longer the more disruptive it is.

[Sunrunners_Fire]

Originally Posted by Kuu

I have two questions about stun guns.

First, can a stun gun cause unconsciousness if applied long enough?
Last, can the defender (the one that's shocked) scream or otherwise talk while being paralyzed?

It can be "by the book", but if there's anyone out there that has actually used one/seen one work, your help is appreciated.

Thank you.

EDIT: Another question. Do you need a license to buy one? I read that it's restricted in some states, but I don't know whether that just means you need a license, or if it's illegal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroshock_weapon
... for the weapons themselves. (And they definitely are weapons.)

-and-

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pow...ser-story.html
... for a hilarious description of someone testing a teeny one on themselves.

[doctorevilbrain]

If you remove the front of a Taser, where the wires are, you can use it as a Stun Gun.

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by doctorevilbrain

If you remove the front of a Taser, where the wires are, you can use it as a Stun Gun.

There is a difference in the current load.
Stun Guns emit a constant current as long as the trigger is pulled.
Tasers have two different outputs. Initially a higher voltage lower amperage current designed to start the current flowing and overcome resistance. The secondary drops the voltage (though its still fairly high) and is higher amperage then a comparable stun gun. That secondary load is where we get our deaths from Tasers. Still unusuall of course and the people who die are under special circumstances and often poor health, drugs, etc.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Phazzer Dragon

Hi! I have read somewhere that it might cause unconsciousness because of shock. Users of stun guns should be careful because there are times that it was used accidentally.

Which kind of shock? I'm used to understand shock as either rapid and noticeable blood loss, or the little penalty one gets to their dice rolls in GURPS.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

Which kind of shock? I'm used to understand shock as either rapid and noticeable blood loss, or the little penalty one gets to their dice rolls in GURPS.

I think they mean shock as in electrical shock, not circulatory shock, which I think you were talking about.

It is a little unclear. AFAIK, there is no way for a Taser or stun gun to cause circulatory shock, because they don't cause massive bleeding.

[Andrew Hackard]

Ph*zz*r Dragon is not going to be able to reply, because he was a spammer and I nuked his account. Just FYI.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

Ph*zz*r Dragon is not going to be able to reply, because he was a spammer and I nuked his account. Just FYI.

While I was suspicious too, what made you certain that he wasn't one of the 'Troubled But Cute' posters like Ragitsu (who was mostly weird but harmless until recently)?