[3e] F-111 - Page 4

Pomphis · 11-06-2012, 01:37 AM

Thanks. I guess your electronics are closer to reality than mine. Again I have a far larger body, but this means that my version isn´t that much faster than historical as yours. DR 9 vs. DR 30, Cheap vs. Expensive Frame, and a massive difference in price.

Pomphis · 11-06-2012, 01:48 AM

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F-5 Tiger II

TL 7 Light Fighter Size+4

Body: 360 cf / 304 sf
2 Wings: 33 cf / 93 sf
Retractable Wheels: 18 cf / 42 sf
Totals: 444 cf / 532 sf, Drag: 49, Lift Area: 216.4

Normal Crewstation with Ejection Seat/G-seat, Mechanical Controls, Autopilot, Navigation Instruments, LR-Com/Scrambler, Flightrecorder, GPS, IFF,
Digital Vehicle Camera, Adv Radar Detector,
F: Air-Search Radar 30 miles / Scan 20,
2x 20mm VeryLong HeavyAuto Gun, 280x SAPHE each (WPS 0.4),
RoF 20, 3dx7 (0.5) + 1d-2 (2d), ½: 1,500, Max: 6,100, Acc 15,
7,400 lb Hardpoints (under body: 1x 3,000, under wings: 4x 1,000, wingtips: 2x 200),
6 hours limited life support, Compact Fire Suppression, rE-cell,
2x 3,400 lb thrust Turbojet, Afterburner,
670 gallons self-sealing light tanks,
Superior Streamlining, Sealed, DR 5 StdMetal, HV Std Frame, Improved Brakes

EWt: 9,635 lb, Fuel: 4,355 lb, Hardpoint payload: 7,400 lb, LWt: 22,000 lb
Cargo/empty: 38.962 cf
Cost: 1,873,770 $

Clean Configuration: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,250 mph (Mach 1.64), aSpeed: 1,020 mph (Mach 1.34), cruiseSpeed: 590 mph (Mach 0.77)
With 7 loaded Hardpoints: aSpeed/Afterburner: 955 mph (Mach 1.25), aSpeed: 780 mph (Mach 1.02), cruiseSpeed: 450 mph (Mach 0.59)
Endurance with Internal Fuel: 43 minutes at aSpeed, 2 hours 11 min at cruiseSpeed

aMR: 5.5
aMR (16,000 lb): 7.5
aAccel (Afterburner): 9 mph/s
aAccel (Afterburner / at 16,000 lb Wt): 12 mph/s

StallSpeed: 160 mph
gAccel (Afterburner): 13 mph/s, gAccel: 10 mph/s, gDecel: 15 mph/s
Takeoff Runway (Afterburner): 492 yards, Takeoff Runway: 640 yards, Landing Runway: 427 yards

HT 12 / 912

Phaelen Bleux · 11-06-2012, 12:36 PM

I feel like we're playing jet poker :)

"I'll see your Phantom and raise you by a Tiger. I'll meet you Tiger and hold.":

http://aerodrome.hamish.tripod.com/M...E_Tiger_II.htm

Pomphis · 11-07-2012, 05:00 AM

Again I have a bigger body, though smaller wings. DR 10 vs. DR 5. IMHO your design is suspicously cheap.

TL7 Frame is 50 $ per sf, x2 for Heavy, x10 for Winged, x3 for Superior Streamlining = $ 3,000 per sf.

Body 275 cf = 254 sf, this alone results in $ 762,000.

Pomphis · 11-07-2012, 05:05 AM

McDonnell Douglas F-15C Eagle

TL 7 Fighter Size+5

Body: 800 cf / 518 sf
2 High-Agility Wings: 127.5 cf / 304 sf
Retractable Wheels: 40 cf / 71 sf
Totals: 1,095 cf / 1,197 sf, Drag: 112.6, Lift Area: 659.8

Normal Crewstation with Ejection Seat/G-seat/Terminal/HUD,
Mechanical Controls, Autopilot, Precision Navigation Instruments, LR-Com/Scrambler, MR-Com/Scrambler, Flightrecorder, INS, MilGPS, IFF, Hardened Genius Compact Minicomputer, Digital Vehicle Camera,
F: Radar 110 miles / Scan 23,
Adv Radar Detector, Aircraft Decoy Discharger with 30 Reloads, Deceptive Jammer –3/6,
20mm Gatling from VE2, 940x SAPHE (WPS 0.4)
RoF 100, 3dx7 (0.5) + 1d-2 (2d), ½: 1,500, Max: 6,100, Acc 15,
18,700 lb Hardpoints (under body: 4x 550, 1x 4,500, under wings: 2x 5,000, 2x 1,000),
18 hours limited life support, Full Fire Suppression, rE-cell,
2x 15,000 lb thrust Turbofan, Afterburner,
2,070 gallons self-sealing standard tanks (690 in body, 1,380 in wings), Refuelling Probe,
Superior Streamlining, Sealed, DR 7 StdMetal,
HV Std Frame, Improved Suspension, Improved Brakes, Arrestor Hook

EWt: 27,721.5 lb, Fuel: 13,455 lb, Hardpoint payload: 18,700 lb, LWt: 61,000 lb
Cargo/empty: 86.87 cf
Cost: 6,325,659 $

Clean Configuration: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,815 mph (Mach 2.38), aSpeed: 1,415 mph (Mach 1.86), cruiseSpeed: 815 mph (Mach 1.07)
With 8 loaded Hardpoints: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,560 mph (Mach 2.05), aSpeed: 1,215 mph (Mach 1.59), cruiseSpeed: 700 mph (Mach 0.92)
Endurance with Internal Fuel: 1 hour 9 minutes at aSpeed, 3 hours 27 min at cruiseSpeed

aMR (61,000 lb): 7
aMR (45,000 lb): 9.5
aAccel (61,000 lb / Afterburner): 16 mph/s
aAccel (45,000 lb / Afterburner): 22 mph/s

StallSpeed: 155 mph
gAccel (Afterburner): 17 mph/s, gAccel: 13 mph/s, gDecel: 15 mph/s
Takeoff Runway (Afterburner): 354 yards, Takeoff Runway: 463 yards, Landing Runway: 401 yards

HT 10 / 1,554

11-06-2012, 01:37 AM	#31
Pomphis Join Date: Oct 2004	Re: [3e] F-111 Thanks. I guess your electronics are closer to reality than mine. Again I have a far larger body, but this means that my version isn´t that much faster than historical as yours. DR 9 vs. DR 30, Cheap vs. Expensive Frame, and a massive difference in price.

11-06-2012, 01:48 AM	#32
Pomphis Join Date: Oct 2004	Re: [3e] F-111 Next: F-5 Tiger II TL 7 Light Fighter Size+4 Body: 360 cf / 304 sf 2 Wings: 33 cf / 93 sf Retractable Wheels: 18 cf / 42 sf Totals: 444 cf / 532 sf, Drag: 49, Lift Area: 216.4 Normal Crewstation with Ejection Seat/G-seat, Mechanical Controls, Autopilot, Navigation Instruments, LR-Com/Scrambler, Flightrecorder, GPS, IFF, Digital Vehicle Camera, Adv Radar Detector, F: Air-Search Radar 30 miles / Scan 20, 2x 20mm VeryLong HeavyAuto Gun, 280x SAPHE each (WPS 0.4), RoF 20, 3dx7 (0.5) + 1d-2 (2d), ½: 1,500, Max: 6,100, Acc 15, 7,400 lb Hardpoints (under body: 1x 3,000, under wings: 4x 1,000, wingtips: 2x 200), 6 hours limited life support, Compact Fire Suppression, rE-cell, 2x 3,400 lb thrust Turbojet, Afterburner, 670 gallons self-sealing light tanks, Superior Streamlining, Sealed, DR 5 StdMetal, HV Std Frame, Improved Brakes EWt: 9,635 lb, Fuel: 4,355 lb, Hardpoint payload: 7,400 lb, LWt: 22,000 lb Cargo/empty: 38.962 cf Cost: 1,873,770 $ Clean Configuration: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,250 mph (Mach 1.64), aSpeed: 1,020 mph (Mach 1.34), cruiseSpeed: 590 mph (Mach 0.77) With 7 loaded Hardpoints: aSpeed/Afterburner: 955 mph (Mach 1.25), aSpeed: 780 mph (Mach 1.02), cruiseSpeed: 450 mph (Mach 0.59) Endurance with Internal Fuel: 43 minutes at aSpeed, 2 hours 11 min at cruiseSpeed aMR: 5.5 aMR (16,000 lb): 7.5 aAccel (Afterburner): 9 mph/s aAccel (Afterburner / at 16,000 lb Wt): 12 mph/s StallSpeed: 160 mph gAccel (Afterburner): 13 mph/s, gAccel: 10 mph/s, gDecel: 15 mph/s Takeoff Runway (Afterburner): 492 yards, Takeoff Runway: 640 yards, Landing Runway: 427 yards HT 12 / 912

11-06-2012, 12:36 PM	#33
Phaelen Bleux World Traveler in Training Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago, IL	Re: [3e] F-111 I feel like we're playing jet poker :) "I'll see your Phantom and raise you by a Tiger. I'll meet you Tiger and hold.": http://aerodrome.hamish.tripod.com/M...E_Tiger_II.htm __________________ "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." -- Kierkegaard http://aerodrome.hamish.tripod.com

11-07-2012, 05:00 AM	#34
Pomphis Join Date: Oct 2004	Re: [3e] F-111 Again I have a bigger body, though smaller wings. DR 10 vs. DR 5. IMHO your design is suspicously cheap. TL7 Frame is 50 $ per sf, x2 for Heavy, x10 for Winged, x3 for Superior Streamlining = $ 3,000 per sf. Body 275 cf = 254 sf, this alone results in $ 762,000.

11-07-2012, 05:05 AM	#35
Pomphis Join Date: Oct 2004	Re: [3e] F-111 McDonnell Douglas F-15C Eagle TL 7 Fighter Size+5 Body: 800 cf / 518 sf 2 High-Agility Wings: 127.5 cf / 304 sf Retractable Wheels: 40 cf / 71 sf Totals: 1,095 cf / 1,197 sf, Drag: 112.6, Lift Area: 659.8 Normal Crewstation with Ejection Seat/G-seat/Terminal/HUD, Mechanical Controls, Autopilot, Precision Navigation Instruments, LR-Com/Scrambler, MR-Com/Scrambler, Flightrecorder, INS, MilGPS, IFF, Hardened Genius Compact Minicomputer, Digital Vehicle Camera, F: Radar 110 miles / Scan 23, Adv Radar Detector, Aircraft Decoy Discharger with 30 Reloads, Deceptive Jammer –3/6, 20mm Gatling from VE2, 940x SAPHE (WPS 0.4) RoF 100, 3dx7 (0.5) + 1d-2 (2d), ½: 1,500, Max: 6,100, Acc 15, 18,700 lb Hardpoints (under body: 4x 550, 1x 4,500, under wings: 2x 5,000, 2x 1,000), 18 hours limited life support, Full Fire Suppression, rE-cell, 2x 15,000 lb thrust Turbofan, Afterburner, 2,070 gallons self-sealing standard tanks (690 in body, 1,380 in wings), Refuelling Probe, Superior Streamlining, Sealed, DR 7 StdMetal, HV Std Frame, Improved Suspension, Improved Brakes, Arrestor Hook EWt: 27,721.5 lb, Fuel: 13,455 lb, Hardpoint payload: 18,700 lb, LWt: 61,000 lb Cargo/empty: 86.87 cf Cost: 6,325,659 $ Clean Configuration: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,815 mph (Mach 2.38), aSpeed: 1,415 mph (Mach 1.86), cruiseSpeed: 815 mph (Mach 1.07) With 8 loaded Hardpoints: aSpeed/Afterburner: 1,560 mph (Mach 2.05), aSpeed: 1,215 mph (Mach 1.59), cruiseSpeed: 700 mph (Mach 0.92) Endurance with Internal Fuel: 1 hour 9 minutes at aSpeed, 3 hours 27 min at cruiseSpeed aMR (61,000 lb): 7 aMR (45,000 lb): 9.5 aAccel (61,000 lb / Afterburner): 16 mph/s aAccel (45,000 lb / Afterburner): 22 mph/s StallSpeed: 155 mph gAccel (Afterburner): 17 mph/s, gAccel: 13 mph/s, gDecel: 15 mph/s Takeoff Runway (Afterburner): 354 yards, Takeoff Runway: 463 yards, Landing Runway: 401 yards HT 10 / 1,554