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Old 04-11-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default Boxing - Liver/Kidney Punch

How exactly would people here model this kind of attack? I've done boxing a while and a good hit to the liver (and the spleen if hit with any real force) will put someone down. In the case of a strong hit, it will rupture and split the organ causing internal damage. This isn't necessarily fatal, but is definitely enough to end a fight.

How exactly could this thing be modeled?

I'd say "Targeted Attack/Vitals - Boxing punch" but it says targeted attacks
can only work with impaling/piercing attacks.

Now, I assume that it can just be assumed that 'damage' reflects this type of injury (eg 6pts of crushing damage to the torso == major wound and can potentially knock peoeple down/out (assuming they have average st/hp)

But what if you actually want to do a punch that actually splits someone's liver or spleen?
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:40 PM   #2
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Maybe accept it as a part of the groin mechanic?
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:43 PM   #3
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How exactly would people here model this kind of attack? I've done boxing a while and a good hit to the liver (and the spleen if hit with any real force) will put someone down. In the case of a strong hit, it will rupture and split the organ causing internal damage. This isn't necessarily fatal, but is definitely enough to end a fight.

How exactly could this thing be modeled?

I'd say "Targeted Attack/Vitals - Boxing punch" but it says targeted attacks
can only work with impaling/piercing attacks.

Now, I assume that it can just be assumed that 'damage' reflects this type of injury (eg 6pts of crushing damage to the torso == major wound and can potentially knock peoeple down/out (assuming they have average st/hp)
Don't increase wounding and force a knockdown roll. Martial Arts has more details.

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But what if you actually want to do a punch that actually splits someone's liver or spleen?
Actually splitting the liver or spleen sounds like pressure secrets to me.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: Boxing - Liver/Kidney Punch

Crushing attacks can target the vitals per Martial Arts p.137.

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Crushing attacks can target the "vitals"—e.g. the solar plexus from the front or the kidneys from behind—at -3. Wounding modifier is only x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 for a major wound.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:46 PM   #5
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Martial Arts, pg. 137.
You can make a crushing attack to vitals. Wounding Modifier is x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 if a major wound.
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:08 PM   #6
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Martial Arts, pg. 137.
You can make a crushing attack to vitals. Wounding Modifier is x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 if a major wound.
....and triple damage is possible on a good roll on the Critical Hit Table. It would take a very strong and skilled boxer to force a death check but enough injury to make staying in the hospital for a couple of weeks a good idea is easier.
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