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Old 02-07-2010, 08:04 AM   #1
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Default cheat with magic items

can i use cheated magic items when i fight rational monster, or in any other situation, that prevents me from using magic items?
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: cheat with magic items

I'd think not.
Cheat only realy applies to items that you can't use due to class/race and number of slots available restrictions. I don't think applies to outside restrictions from monsters.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:55 AM   #3
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Default Re: cheat with magic items

The Cheat card or MQ is far more expansive in its scope, but even in this case, I'm inclined to say that it's still a Magic Item, and that Cheat doesn't remove (nor does it fully imply that it removes) a keyword from an Item. I'd like Andrew to confirm, however, since I know that we've found this version of Cheat to confuse even us.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:04 AM   #4
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Default Re: cheat with magic items

We have ruled in the past that Cheat! does not remove an item's inherent nature -- for instance, Cheat!ed armor is still armor, and therefore vulnerable to a Lose Your Armor curse or trap. So I would agree with MunchkinMan; it's still a magic item and you can't use it if the monster or room prohibits the use of magic items.

Here might be a better way to look at it: Cheat! removes any prohibitions on use that stem from the wielder, but does not apply to any external conditions.
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