Take me! Take me!

munchkin-noob · 04-12-2009, 09:35 PM

Recent game, this situation led to a very heated arguement. Player opened the door and drew the Kudzu plant. Couldn't beat it on her own, and was going to run away because the bad stuff wouldn't have effected her anyways. Before she rolled, another player plays Take me! Take me!, forcing her to accept his help. He couldn't beat it either, so he plays Ancient on it (adding +2 treasures, now for a total of 6) and follows that with Friendly, which forces the monster to give up the treasure.

His arguement (along with another player who agreed with him) was that the Friendly card gave him all the treasure (as the card says, "the monster gives you the treasure") leaving none for the other player. That's another arguement in itself to me, but my arguement was that because Take me! Take me! specifically says "you cannot demand a reward," he is entitled to no treasure at all.

Opinions?

bonetm · 04-12-2009, 09:51 PM

His play was legal, he could play "Take me! Take me!" and the Enhancers, but in any combat, the Treasure always goes to whoever is the main combatent (as a general rule). And of course he could not win any Treasures, as you pointed out, since "Take me! Take me!" explicitly says so.

He failed in his Munchkinness =)

Captain-Captain · 04-12-2009, 09:56 PM

Nope. the default situation is that the player whose turn it is gets the treasure. YOU negotiate a deal when you offer to help. The take Me card doesn't specify you get a treasure share at all. And finally, I'd read the "YOU" on the Friendly card to mean the person fighting the monster (that would be the player whose turn it is). In Essence, he gave up three cards to give the first player the treasures.

The Friendly card would need to specify third party treasure reciept to make it so.

Andrew Hackard · 04-12-2009, 11:37 PM

Treasure ALWAYS go to the main combatant, to be distributed according to the agreement with the helper. Your friend was wrong.

morleydotes · 04-13-2009, 02:21 AM

But remember, 10% always go to the Czar of Munchkin...

Pat

munchkin-noob · 04-13-2009, 10:14 AM

Glad you all agree, I mean hell it's the rules haha. Would like to get Munchkinman's official take on it too though.

robkelk · 04-13-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by munchkin-noob

Glad you all agree, I mean hell it's the rules haha. Would like to get Munchkinman's official take on it too though.

You got the Super-Duper-Über Munchkin's take on it; that's usually as close to official as makes no difference...

munchkin-noob · 04-13-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by robkelk

You got the Super-Duper-Über Munchkin's take on it; that's usually as close to official as makes no difference...

oh didn't notice that, haha. thanks :)

MunchkinMan · 04-13-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by munchkin-noob

oh didn't notice that, haha. thanks :)

I'm sure you could search and find tons of places where I've said that specific thing already that you don't have to wait around for my commentary. However, if Andrew says something with that level of finality, it usually means he already knows what my answer is going to be, or got it from SJ. If he says "until I get overruled by Erik," well, then you know he's not so sure how I may have ruled in the past, and doesn't want to bug SJ . . . :-)

munchkin-noob · 04-13-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

I'm sure you could search and find tons of places where I've said that already that you don't have to wait around for my commentary. However, if Andrew says something with that level of finality, it usually means he already knows what my answer is going to be, or got it from SJ. If he says "until I get overruled by Erik," well, then you know he's not so sure how I may have ruled in the past, and doesn't want to bug SJ . . . :-)

Alright, thanks. I'm new to the forums, so I didn't really know the pecking order yet. Thanks for setting me straight though :)

04-12-2009, 09:35 PM	#1
munchkin-noob Join Date: Mar 2009	Take me! Take me! Recent game, this situation led to a very heated arguement. Player opened the door and drew the Kudzu plant. Couldn't beat it on her own, and was going to run away because the bad stuff wouldn't have effected her anyways. Before she rolled, another player plays Take me! Take me!, forcing her to accept his help. He couldn't beat it either, so he plays Ancient on it (adding +2 treasures, now for a total of 6) and follows that with Friendly, which forces the monster to give up the treasure. His arguement (along with another player who agreed with him) was that the Friendly card gave him all the treasure (as the card says, "the monster gives you the treasure") leaving none for the other player. That's another arguement in itself to me, but my arguement was that because Take me! Take me! specifically says "you cannot demand a reward," he is entitled to no treasure at all. Opinions? Last edited by munchkin-noob; 04-12-2009 at 09:49 PM.

04-12-2009, 09:51 PM	#2
bonetm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brazil	Re: Take me! Take me! His play was legal, he could play "Take me! Take me!" and the Enhancers, but in any combat, the Treasure always goes to whoever is the main combatent (as a general rule). And of course he could not win any Treasures, as you pointed out, since "Take me! Take me!" explicitly says so. He failed in his Munchkinness =) __________________ Igor Toscano MiB: #1602

04-12-2009, 09:56 PM	#3
Captain-Captain Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: Take me! Take me! Nope. the default situation is that the player whose turn it is gets the treasure. YOU negotiate a deal when you offer to help. The take Me card doesn't specify you get a treasure share at all. And finally, I'd read the "YOU" on the Friendly card to mean the person fighting the monster (that would be the player whose turn it is). In Essence, he gave up three cards to give the first player the treasures. The Friendly card would need to specify third party treasure reciept to make it so. __________________ ...().0...0() .../..........\ -/......O.....\- ...VVVVVVV ..^^^^^^^ A clock running two hours slow has the correct time zero times a day.

04-12-2009, 11:37 PM	#4
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Take me! Take me! Treasure ALWAYS go to the main combatant, to be distributed according to the agreement with the helper. Your friend was wrong. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

04-13-2009, 02:21 AM	#5
morleydotes Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Salem, OR.	Re: Take me! Take me! But remember, 10% always go to the Czar of Munchkin... Pat __________________ Salem Midnight Crew / MIB 1987 Or the Wrong MIB. Salem Cell leader, for the clueless in Oregon. Ahhhh... I see the Screw-Up Fairy has visited us again. Closed Captioned for the Humor Impaired

04-13-2009, 10:14 AM	#6
munchkin-noob Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Take me! Take me! Glad you all agree, I mean hell it's the rules haha. Would like to get Munchkinman's official take on it too though.

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