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Old 04-19-2017, 10:34 PM   #1181
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There is at least one person I know who bought the 3rd ed. Discworld book. When I mentioned to him that there is a new version, he shrugged. "Why should I buy another edition of the same book?"

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Broken distribution or whatnot, it is simply a shame that the Discworld RPG is not showing up on more shelves. I think GURPS is a fantastic system and that led me to buy the book - which I think is great - but I also feel that thanks to the interesting contents of the book (Discworld, Pratchett) and the excellent treatment as an RPG (which I would attribute mostly to Phil), the Discworld RPG constitutes an extremely good entry point for GURPS as a system. And like D Cole pointed out above, the setting really shows the strengths of GURPS.

Thanks to the SJG team for the openness and transparency of the stakeholders report. Let us hope that the DFRPG helps generate more interest for GURPS. I will get it from my FLGS, as I did with Discworld.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:20 AM   #1182
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There is at least one person I know who bought the 3rd ed. Discworld book. When I mentioned to him that there is a new version, he shrugged. "Why should I buy another edition of the same book?"
Um because it's not the same book?

Did you explain that to him? What was the next step in the conversation?

Ok well that leaves the other 20 million who bought Discworld novels, but never bought either edition.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:33 AM   #1183
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Returning to the cost overruns on the DFRPG boxset, the report says this was due to a mis-communication with the manufacturer or something like that. Does SJ Games know how that happened, and more importantly how to avoid it happening again?
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:50 AM   #1184
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. . . the report says this was due to a mis-communication with the manufacturer . . .
The factory was in no way involved in the miscommunications and mistakes that have delayed the project.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:32 AM   #1185
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The factory was in no way involved in the miscommunications and mistakes that have delayed the project.
OK, so do you know how to prevent a recurrence of these miscommunications and mistakes?
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:12 AM   #1186
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OK, so do you know how to prevent a recurrence of these miscommunications and mistakes?
Isn't a little bit early for a post-mortem of the project? It's not finished yet.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:03 PM   #1187
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Isn't a little bit early for a post-mortem of the project? It's not finished yet.
This isn't a project post mortem, this appears to be a single identified issue. Fixing it now, before it reoccurs makes sense.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:33 PM   #1188
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OK, so do you know how to prevent a recurrence of these miscommunications and mistakes?
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Isn't a little bit early for a post-mortem of the project? It's not finished yet.
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This isn't a project post mortem, this appears to be a single identified issue. Fixing it now, before it reoccurs makes sense.
Just to put some viscosity into this:

If the issue is that specific and identified, then if Phil wanted to say what was wrong and what the fix was, he would have. This suggests that there was either a discrete decision (or subset) that went wrong, and to identify it is to air dirty laundry in public, which is something SJG has been blessedly loath to do, or there's a process or subsystem that needs fixing, which again is internal business process stuff that as customers we don't really need to know. It also might fall into "dirty laundry" category, in that the answer might be "Doug dorks this up on a regular basis, and so we need systems in place to either remove that decision from his hands, or educate him on the business logic that drives different calls here." Which again, is best handled behind closed doors.

So . . . Phil has said there was an issue, and they'll either hunt it down and try a fix, or they've already hunted it down, and the fix will remain "below the waterline," and hopefully just won't rear its head again.
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:15 PM   #1189
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...So . . . Phil has said there was an issue, and they'll either hunt it down and try a fix, or they've already hunted it down, and the fix will remain "below the waterline," and hopefully just won't rear its head again.
Oh, I agree, I wasn't trying to push for an answer, just being pedantic about the problem, whatever it is, most likely being a single issue, that may have affects beyond this project. As such, addressing it now, instead of waiting for a project post mortem is a sensible move.
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:47 PM   #1190
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the fix will remain "below the waterline," and hopefully just won't rear its head again.
I get an image of Phil standing in the SJG longboat, ax in hand, ready to chop the sea monster if it dares to raise its head again. ;)
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