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Old 04-13-2017, 05:40 PM   #1091
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I didn't find out about the Ogre Designers edition kickstarter until long after it was over and done
Well, please let's not let THAT ever happen again! I'd like to request . . . no, encourage . . . no . . . plead in every manner that might work, for you to sign up to our Ogre News feed. You can find it here, and join by clicking on "Join Group".

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(Don't read this parenthetical remark! Go there now! What are you still doing here . . .?)

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Old 04-13-2017, 06:16 PM   #1092
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Anyone who has not yet pre-ordered the game should go to their local store and state: I want to pre-order this game, please.
How about those of us who either don't have an FLGS or have an incompetent one?

FWIW, I pre-ordered at the FLGS in November or December last year. In February I'd heard nothing at all from them and I was there anyway and decided to look at the GURPS titles they had (about five) and there BEHIND the Basic Set was a copy of Discworld. I pointed out this failure of theirs to them and that was it. However, I heard later that a friend of mine had just about the same experience there. But the copy they got first for him was faulty and understandably he was not keen on it so they got him a new one, and put the faulty copy on the shelf again...
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:07 PM   #1093
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Personally, I do now believe that a PDF version would be a very good idea. But the fact is, things like Discworld first edition sold quite well despite the non-existence of PDF options back then. So the first question has to be -- What's changed? Are PDFs killing print market volume, directly or indirectly, or is it something more complicated?
Well, the first copy of the original GURPS Discworld I could find in one of my then existing friendly local gaming stores, which one has since gone out of business. I replaced it, IIRC, through Amazon when the first copy got worn to bits, not because of poor quality but because of too much use, mostly just for reading pleasure rather than gaming. Discworld Also was a similar story, though it was harder to replace and my new copy was second hand though in decent shape.

My guess is that for the original editions, going by my fallible memory, PDF format still wasn't something widepread at the time for RPG books, or at least not generally expected, so lack of such didn't affect sales. Of course my internet access was limited at the time, so I wasn't paying much attention to the online/digital RPG scene, just going by what showed up in the local gaming store. My guess based on the current behaviour of other RPG publishers is that if PDFs of the original GURPS Discworld books had been available SJGames would have made more money at the time, but since it wasn't an expected product type they didn't lose anything back then by not providing a PDF option the way they are now.
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:57 PM   #1094
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Kalzazz - What you're describing is the intent of the Daily Illuminator, with its forum discussion threads. News and interesting "stuff." What do you mean by wanting "more of a teaser" ?

What would you like to know about the MIBs?

jcfiala - Ultracorps is up and running and more or less in perpetual free beta. If interest ever snowballed in the free game we might throw more resources at it. Right now it's too awesome to discard and not successful enough to support, and Kira donates her time to manage it because she also loves the game.
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Old 04-14-2017, 05:46 AM   #1095
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Does SJG post their GURPS releases on RPG.Net's "Glamorous Unrestrained Hype Machine"? I couldn't find any threads, but I didn't look very hard.
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:06 PM   #1096
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As a teaser, I meant like a few sentence teaser or such describing what the Daily Illuminator article is going to talk about, so that clicking it you see not only the link, but a little bit about what it is going to be about

On the MiBs, it would be nice to see more info on what MiBs do, how people become them, what they do to retain standing, how they get tasks, do they find their own tasks or does SJGames assign them, do they cold call local game stores or what? I see the link to click on the website, but I admit I don't feel very enlightened after reading it
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:19 PM   #1097
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Is there a reason why SJG isn't trying to join the world of virtual table top gaming?

Working with Fantasy Grounds, for example, would be way to get a stream of cash flowing, without having to do a tremendous amount of work.

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Old 04-14-2017, 06:53 PM   #1098
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On the MiBs, it would be nice to see more info on what MiBs do, how people become them, what they do to retain standing, how they get tasks, do they find their own tasks or does SJGames assign them, do they cold call local game stores or what? I see the link to click on the website, but I admit I don't feel very enlightened after reading it
This link?


http://www.sjgames.com/mib/mibjoin.html


As someone who recently became an MIB I don't think following the instructions was too arduous. Not as difficult as applying for a job, turning up to a new school, volunteering for an NGO or getting on a convention program.

Just ask specific questions as you go through the process. General questions may get you pointed at text you will need to read.

Depending on where you are you may very well be on your own (or not, you're going to have to ask), I am. I just run GURPS demos (Stores, Open RPG days, conventions and the like are the appropriate places for this).

If you are already doing those sorts of things then the MIB part will be the least difficult.

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Old 04-14-2017, 08:33 PM   #1099
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Is there a reason why SJG isn't trying to join the world of virtual table top gaming?
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No reason whatsoever. See this thread for the first experiment: Storium - In Nomine
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:15 AM   #1100
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FWIW, I pre-ordered at the FLGS in November or December last year. In February I'd heard nothing at all from them and I was there anyway and decided to look at the GURPS titles they had (about five) and there BEHIND the Basic Set was a copy of Discworld. I pointed out this failure of theirs to them and that was it. However, I heard later that a friend of mine had just about the same experience there. But the copy they got first for him was faulty and understandably he was not keen on it so they got him a new one, and put the faulty copy on the shelf again...
Please send the name and city of your store to retailers@sjgames.com with a link to this post. Our team will contact the store and see if we can assist them by providing more info on our sales calendar and add them to our retailer mailing list.

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