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Old 11-04-2009, 11:47 AM   #141
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We never interpreted that way. I think the rule we came up with was that, if a card says "will not pursue," you can choose either to leave, or fight the monster. Of course, if you fight, you're committed to the combat and you have to run away and suffer Bad Stuff as normal. By your logic, it would mean that you would lose a level immediately if you drew the Wight Brothers, because the card says "lose a level even if you escape," but it also says "will not pursue characters level 4 (give or take) or below." Our reasoning holds that a low level player does not have to deal with the card, period, and can loot the room without penalty.

Our reasoning is probably (definitely) not what the designers intended, but it seems to work well for us.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:55 PM   #142
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By your logic, it would mean that you would lose a level immediately if you drew the Wight Brothers, because the card says "lose a level even if you escape," but it also says "will not pursue characters level 4 (give or take) or below." Our reasoning holds that a low level player does not have to deal with the card, period, and can loot the room without penalty.
i think for that particular card it says will not pursue level x or lower but higher levels lose x levels even if they escape. i think i've got munchkin at my house right now; i'll go check a few things.

by the way i think the normal ruling for attacking a monster that doesn't pursue and then having the tables turned on you and having to run away is that they still don't pursue (unless your "friends" helped you by putting you up a few levels.)
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:08 PM   #143
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i think i've got munchkin at my house right now; i'll go check a few things.
i don't want to check the expansions but i found two cards in the original munchkin. King Tut and the Wight Brothers both have the same normal effect:
"Will not pursue anyone of Level 3 or below. Characters of higher levels lose 2 levels, even if they escape."
On the other hand, in munchkin bites the card The Evil says:
"These demon kittens will not pursue anyone of Level 4 or below, but anyone who encounters them loses a level anyway, just from sheer terror."
so in that case you'd lose a level even if you were level 2 or 3.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:56 PM   #144
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Aha. I stand corrected. I have a fuzzy memory of the cards.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:54 PM   #145
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My Houserule is that Kneepads of Allure can always be used in the game, despite it not being printed any more.

Why? Because given that we play with Munchkin, Unnatural Axe, Clerical Errors, De-Ranged, The Need for Steed (and will soon be adding in More Good Cards, Fairy Dust, and Waiting for Santa) all in one giant deck the card hardly ever comes up. And when it does it makes the game a blast to play! It is pretty much the only time that I ever get to see someone playing a Monster Enhancer to ensure that they lose the fight that they are in! That alone makes it worth keeping the card in the game. Besides which, the game is called Munchkin and the Kneepads of Allure are about as Munchkiny as you can get.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:54 PM   #146
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Just because a card is no longer printed does not mean you can't use it. If you happen to own a copy that has it and play with that set, that card's there for you to use. At no point was anyone told to take the card out of their set and destroy it just because it's no longer being printed in newer printings.

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Old 11-07-2009, 07:25 PM   #147
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Just because a card is no longer printed does not mean you can't use it. If you happen to own a copy that has it and play with that set, that card's there for you to use. At no point was anyone told to take the card out of their set and destroy it just because it's no longer being printed in newer printings.

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that's cool, i hate when companies start mass banning the cards that they made (yu-gi-oh).
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:26 AM   #148
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Just because a card is no longer printed does not mean you can't use it. If you happen to own a copy that has it and play with that set, that card's there for you to use. At no point was anyone told to take the card out of their set and destroy it just because it's no longer being printed in newer printings.

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Glad to hear! I incorporated the rule recently due to a discussion with some gamers (whom I had only met that night) and one of them mentioned that the Kneepads of Allure were no longer being made and that meant that they could no longer be used.

Can they still be used in tournament play if someone is using an older deck with that card? Or do tournament decks have to conform to the most recent printing?
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:40 AM   #149
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What I said goes for anything. You play with the cards that are in your set. Again, Munchkin != Tragic: The Marketing.

Now, if the owner of the set hates the KoA, he's welcome to take it out, but no one at SJG is going to sanction you, him, or anyone else for wanting to remove it or play with it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:41 PM   #150
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Munchkin official tournament rules would seem like a bad idea to me, since so many cards would be banned in a futile attempt to achieve game balance, e.g. Wizard abilities, KoA, Divine Intervention, etc.. Munchkin is about as much luck as it is skill, and I think that's what makes it such a great game. With that said, I think in a tournament, anything goes.
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