GURPS Fantasy, Spirit Meta-Traits, Difficult Speech

[Jerander]

GURPS Fantasy, under the spirit meta-traits, lists on named Difficult Speech [21]. Could someone explain to me how that point cost was derived?

Thanks,
Jerander.

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Jerander

GURPS Fantasy, under the spirit meta-traits, lists on named Difficult Speech [21]. Could someone explain to me how that point cost was derived?

Sure. Part of Unmanifested Spirit is Mute (Substantial Only, -10%) [-22]. That's based on Mute [25]. If you want a spirit that's able to talk freely, you take Not Mute [22], exactly negating the cost of Mute. But if you have to pay 1 FP/minute for Not Mute, it becomes Not Mute (Cost 1 FP/minute, -5%) [21].

Bill Stoddard

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by whswhs

Sure. Part of Unmanifested Spirit is Mute (Substantial Only, -10%) [-22]. That's based on Mute [25]. If you want a spirit that's able to talk freely, you take Not Mute [22], exactly negating the cost of Mute. But if you have to pay 1 FP/minute for Not Mute, it becomes Not Mute (Cost 1 FP/minute, -5%) [21].

Bill Stoddard

Thanks. Is the -5% for Costs Fatigue calculated against the original Mute [-25] disadv, or against the new Not Mute [22] adv.?

Jerander.

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Jerander

Thanks. Is the -5% for Costs Fatigue calculated against the original Mute [-25] disadv, or against the new Not Mute [22] adv.?

Jerander.

I haven't seen an official ruling as to how this ought to be done. I had figured it at -5% of 22 points. I suppose you could say that you are buying Not Mute with Substantial Only (-10%) and Costs 1 FP/minute (-5%); but that would cost 85% of 25 points, or 21.25 points, rounding up to 22, in which case you would get the crock of paying FP and not actually get any meaningful cost reduction.

Bill Stoddard

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by whswhs

I haven't seen an official ruling as to how this ought to be done. I had figured it at -5% of 22 points. I suppose you could say that you are buying Not Mute with Substantial Only (-10%) and Costs 1 FP/minute (-5%); but that would cost 85% of 25 points, or 21.25 points, rounding up to 22, in which case you would get the crock of paying FP and not actually get any meaningful cost reduction.

Bill Stoddard

That makes sense. The reason I ask is that it seems there could be other, similar advantages for spirits: spirits that have trouble percieving the physical world in particular. Knowing how they constructed this trait would help in constructing the others.