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Old 07-03-2007, 06:05 AM   #1
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I'm still fairly new to Transhuman Space and was wondering which movies people consider to fall into the category of hard-fi? My list is as follows:

2001: A Space Odyssey
A.I.
Bicentennial Man
Blade Runner
Contact
Equilibrium
Event Horizon
Gattaca
I, Robot
The Abyss
The Sixth Day
Total Recall

Am I pretty much in the ball park with these suggestions? What other films/tv series would you suggest?
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:53 AM   #2
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Just 'found' this list on the Transhuman Space section of the website.

Documentaries
The Blue Planet (BBC, 2002).
Secrets of the Ocean Realm (PBS, 1998).
Volcanoes of the Deep (NOVA/PBS, 1999).

Film and Television
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Richard Fleischer, 1954).
The Abyss (James Cameron, 1989).
Blue Submarine No. 6 (Mahiro Maeda, 1998).
Deep Blue Sea (Renny Harlin, 1999).
Gasaraki (ADV Films, 1998).
Ghost in the Shell (Bandai Visual, 1996).
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (Production, I.G., 2002).
Planetes (Sunrise, 2003).
SeaQuest DSV (Universal TV, 1993-1995).
Waterworld (Kevin Reynolds, 1995).
Sealab 2021 (Williams Street, 2001).
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:18 PM   #3
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The hell?!?!? That's like citing Monty Python and the Holy Grail as source material for Banestorm!

Honestly, there is precious little genuine hard SF in the visual media. Of those you've listed, I'd only classify 2001, Contact (from what I understand; I've never seen it), and maybe Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex as being hard SF. Not that most of the others don't have something to offer to a THS campaign, they're just not what I'd call hard SF.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:26 PM   #4
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The hell?!?!? That's like citing Monty Python and the Holy Grail as source material for Banestorm!
Those recommendations in my second post are from the Transhuman Space section of this very website!

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Honestly, there is precious little genuine hard SF in the visual media. Of those you've listed, I'd only classify 2001, Contact (from what I understand; I've never seen it), and maybe Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex as being hard SF. Not that most of the others don't have something to offer to a THS campaign, they're just not what I'd call hard SF.
I was thinking more along the lines of the social issues, etc. implied by those movies that I've listed rather than the obvious observation which is that they're primarily action films.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:42 PM   #5
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Honestly, there is precious little genuine hard SF in the visual media. Of those you've listed, I'd only classify 2001, Contact (from what I understand; I've never seen it), and maybe Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex as being hard SF. Not that most of the others don't have something to offer to a THS campaign, they're just not what I'd call hard SF.
Gattaca is hard science fiction (certainly harder than GitS). 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (the novel, anyway) is classic hard sf.

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Old 07-03-2007, 02:45 PM   #6
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The hell?!?!? That's like citing Monty Python and the Holy Grail as source material for Banestorm!

Honestly, there is precious little genuine hard SF in the visual media. Of those you've listed, I'd only classify 2001, Contact (from what I understand; I've never seen it), and maybe Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex as being hard SF. Not that most of the others don't have something to offer to a THS campaign, they're just not what I'd call hard SF.
Contact?!
After watching that drek, I feel the very poor taste urge to disinter Carl Sagan and kick him in the rocky mountain oysters.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:35 PM   #7
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Planetes is doubly-recommended. Had it more biotech it would be set in the THS universe.

For a vacuum-cleaner campaign is obligatory reference.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:38 PM   #8
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Contact?!
After watching that drek, I feel the very poor taste urge to disinter Carl Sagan and kick him in the rocky mountain oysters.
To be fair, I've heard that the movie mangled the book very badly. I think I'll read the book and find out.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:50 PM   #9
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Planetes is doubly-recommended. Had it more biotech it would be set in the THS universe.

For a vacuum-cleaner campaign is obligatory reference.
Yeah, Planetes is awesome. I watched too many episodes in one go, and started dreaming about it.
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:20 PM   #10
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Yeah, Planetes is awesome. I watched too many episodes in one go, and started dreaming about it.
I can certainly see the relevance of Planetes to THS campaigns. On the other hand, I've watched a couple of episodes and not found it interesting enough to keep watching; something about the characters or the storyline just didn't work for me. I wanted to like it, but I just didn't enjoy it enough.

The interstellar/hyperdrive tech of Crest of the Stars is not much like THS, but the portrayal of the Abh as an engineered posthuman species is extremely relevant, I think. I recommend giving it a look.

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