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Old 12-22-2017, 08:55 AM   #1
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Title really says it all: Other than the phenomenally-huge list on the Ogre page of the website, what are the must-haves for learning more about the setting / events / etc? GURPS Ogre seems like a no-brainer, but I'm not sure if I should be snagging anything else.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:20 AM   #2
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GURPS Ogre and the second edition of The Ogre Book contain just about everything.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:27 AM   #3
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DankeDanke.

Got them added to my list of "I need to get off my butt and get these PDFs", right alongside some of the Car Wars stuff.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:50 AM   #4
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GURPS Ogre can be found at reasonable prices online, if you'd rather have a hardcopy. The Ogre Book, not so much. As an out-of-print Ogre title, the scalpers have decided that it is Rare and Valuable, and prices tend to be outrageous.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:00 PM   #5
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Apparently you know me too well. I do prefer dead-tree editions, and the prices on Amazon aren't bad. You're not kidding about The Ogre Book though...one seller thinks $650 is a fair price for one in 'acceptable' condition...
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:40 PM   #6
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Both Amazon and ABEBooks (which Amazon now owns) use pricing algorithms which take the number of searches versus the number of available copies, and sets the prices based on that. So if there are three copies online in their system, and 1500 searches for it (never mind that no one actually bought it), then the price goes up dutifully and without regard to reality.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:23 PM   #7
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And we've seen before feedback loops even without that - one merchant says "set the price $5 lower than anyone else's", another says "set the price $10 higher than the lowest price, and if anyone wants it I'll buy it off lowest-price guy and keep the difference".
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:10 PM   #8
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And then there's vendors just looking for fools. My novel is print on demand, ten bucks. Someone was advertising a copy for $435 at one point.
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And we've seen before feedback loops even without that - one merchant says "set the price $5 lower than anyone else's", another says "set the price $10 higher than the lowest price, and if anyone wants it I'll buy it off lowest-price guy and keep the difference".
Even worse is when 2 or more vendors all say, "Price this $1 more than the most expensive competitor," hoping to lure buyers with lower shipping. Except that they go into a recursive pricing loop where each vendor just keeps riasing their prices because someone else has it listed for $1 more than them...
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:37 PM   #10
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Don't forget that we're getting some nice "fluff" fiction thanks to the ongoing OGREZINE articles being posted at SJG.
http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/products/ogrezine/
I especially liked the latest one. "The Final Battle" was a great look into a "dark" version of the Factory States era.
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