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Old 09-01-2017, 05:38 AM   #1
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Default Stun recovery IQ or Will?

So in Fright Checks (pg 10) it says you make Will tests to snap out of the Stun. But on pg 27 you make IQ tests with a bonus for combat reflexes.

I take it Will is just for Fright Check based stun?
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Old 09-01-2017, 08:10 AM   #2
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Default Re: Stun recovery IQ or Will?

I think that is a genuine instance of the rules clashing.

In full-GURPS you use the calculated Will value as the number to roll against to snap out of the mental stun, so I would follow the rules on page 10 over those on p27.

The rules on p10 are also more specific (dealing only with Fright) than the rules on p27 (dealing with mental stun from a range of sources) so in the absence of a tie-breaker I would still follow the more specific rule.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:33 AM   #3
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I think that is a genuine instance of the rules clashing.
Agreed.

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In full-GURPS you use the calculated Will value as the number to roll against to snap out of the mental stun, so I would follow the rules on page 10 over those on p27.
Full GURPS says, from B420: "Mental Stun: If you are surprised, you might be mentally stunned; see Surprise Attacks and Initiative (p. 393). This sort of stunning works as described above, but you must make an IQ roll, not a HT roll, to snap out of it. You’re not hurt – you’re confused!" (Italics in the original.)

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The rules on p10 are also more specific (dealing only with Fright) than the rules on p27 (dealing with mental stun from a range of sources) so in the absence of a tie-breaker I would still follow the more specific rule.
I would use Will to snap out of stun caused by being mentally unhinged, IQ to snap out of stun caused by being mentally uncollected, and HT to snap out of stun caused by physical trauma.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:58 PM   #4
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Full GURPS says, from B420: "Mental Stun
I was referring to the full rules for Fright checks - p360/1
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