08-16-2017, 07:28 PM | #1 |
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[DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
Considering whipping up a body of air or body of smoke spell that includes no fine manipulators but DF:19 says that an incantation requires "A quick word, a gesture and a second of concentration". Can you make the gesture with no manipulators?
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08-16-2017, 07:54 PM | #2 |
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Re: [DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
No fine manipulators is different from no manipulators at all. You can still make a gesture with an arm missing a hand, but if you are missing the arm entirely that becomes a problem. You might have to build the Body of Air/Smoke template a bit differently than default if you want to be able to still gesture.
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08-16-2017, 10:48 PM | #3 | |
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08-17-2017, 07:20 AM | #4 |
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Re: [DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
Doctor Strange loses his Fine manipulators and still casts spells, so there's plenty of fictional precedent :)
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08-17-2017, 07:28 AM | #5 |
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Re: [DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
Note that when you are using it for a body of something intangible, the "Fine" and "Manipulators" parts of that disadvantage no longer fully overlap. You make gestures with the Fine bit, you use physical tools with the Manipulators bit. Intangible forms can't do the later, but the former is more open to interpretation.
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08-17-2017, 04:00 PM | #6 |
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Re: [DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
He loses his high levels of High Manual Dexterity and acquires Ham-Fisted, possibly Bad Grip.
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08-17-2017, 05:49 PM | #8 |
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Re: [DF][Incantation] Casting without manipulators
I have always run it if a characters form is native he can cast spells.
My Dragons do not need hands or high skills to cast, they just use different gestures than humanoids. For shapechangers I have played it as a perk to adapt to a different body type or just a familiarity penalty they could ignore with enough time and practice.
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