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Old 07-31-2017, 08:52 AM   #31
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Power stunt extended duration on the levitation for this one use. Take extra time to counter the will penalty
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:18 PM   #32
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Power stunt extended duration on the levitation for this one use. Take extra time to counter the will penalty
What is a power stunt? Do you have a page reference?
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:31 PM   #33
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What is a power stunt? Do you have a page reference?
Power stunts in general are described in GURPS Powers, pp. 170-174. Starslayer is presumably talking about, specifically, "Temporary Enhancements", pp. 172-173. However, I doubt you've be particularly happy with this option. Psionic techniques, as described in Psionic Powers, are already the specific implementation of those rules for psionics, and you've already indicated you aren't happy with them.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:36 PM   #34
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What is a power stunt? Do you have a page reference?
Temporary enhancements Powers page 172, as part of 'stunts' powers page 170-174.

easiest explanation:
Make a will roll at -15 (+1 per fatigue spent, you can use extra time)
Pay 2 fatigue
Your next use of the levitation power has duration unlimited with dispelling conditions.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:30 PM   #35
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Temporary enhancements Powers page 172, as part of 'stunts' powers page 170-174.

easiest explanation:
Make a will roll at -15 (+1 per fatigue spent, you can use extra time)
Pay 2 fatigue
Your next use of the levitation power has duration unlimited with dispelling conditions.
What you're describing is what Psionic Powers codified as a "psi technique," and Owen has indicated that he doesn't like those.

What's unfortunately here is that psi techniques are fairly fundamental to the Psionic Powers framework, so disliking the former will obviously lead to disliking the latter. To avoid that, I'd recommend using the Basic Set rules for psi, which don't use skills and techniques, just Talent. (I realize this is probably belated advice, but something to bear in mind for your next campaign.)
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:36 PM   #36
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By the way, I wouldn't handle this with an enhancement (whether direct or as a technique), because that would be overpriced IMO. I'd feel bad forcing someone to buy a +80% enhancement to offset a -10% limitation!

Instead, I agree that this calls for a perk, though not something as generous as No Nuisance Rolls. I'd go with this:

Long-Distance Levitator: You have enough mental and physical endurance for the long haul. When your travel time is measured in hours instead of minutes, you need roll against Levitation only once per hour, but based on the lower of IQ or HT. Assess hourly FP costs as if hiking: 1 FP + FP equal to your encumbrance level.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:45 PM   #37
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To avoid that, I'd recommend using the Basic Set rules for psi, which don't use skills and techniques, just Talent. (I realize this is probably belated advice, but something to bear in mind for your next campaign.)
My advice would be to not mix Magic as Skills with Psi as Powers as they are fundamentally of different power and utility scales.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:20 AM   #38
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Long-Distance Levitator: You have enough mental and physical endurance for the long haul. When your travel time is measured in hours instead of minutes, you need roll against Levitation only once per hour, but based on the lower of IQ or HT. Assess hourly FP costs as if hiking: 1 FP + FP equal to your encumbrance level.
I was hoping you'd weigh in. The rolls would be one to get started, and the next an hour later?
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Old 08-01-2017, 03:15 AM   #39
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I was hoping you'd weigh in. The rolls would be one to get started, and the next an hour later?
One to get started, and then one (plus hiking FP) every hour afterward.
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My advice would be to not mix Magic as Skills with Psi as Powers as they are fundamentally of different power and utility scales.
I can't agree, because I've mixed standard magic with powers (psi or otherwise) in several campaigns -- Dungeon Fantasy being the easiest one to point to -- and it's worked out fine.
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