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Old 11-28-2016, 02:01 PM   #1
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Default OGRE Unit Sizes and Weights

We have this amazing work from Winchell Chung showing the OGREs:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nyrath...7630128928642/

Does anyone have any stats on the other units?
Thanks for the help.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:19 PM   #2
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GURPS Ogre has weights, derived from the GURPS Vehicles construction system, but they're not particularly accurate. According to them, a Mark III should float.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:21 PM   #3
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We have this information:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=40287
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:39 AM   #4
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...excellent, Thanks guys. :)
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:48 AM   #5
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GURPS Ogre has weights, derived from the GURPS Vehicles construction system, but they're not particularly accurate. According to them, a Mark III should float.
Ogres have to be pretty close to neutrally buoyant to move on a muddy or sandy lake bottom. (But not float.)
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Old 11-29-2016, 12:19 PM   #6
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I just figured that they got by with very large ground contact patches, and having enough torque that if you had a strong enough cable and welded it to their treads, they could winch themselves vertically straight up and down like a yo-yo. :)
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:17 PM   #7
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I just figured that they got by with very large ground contact patches, and having enough torque that if you had a strong enough cable and welded it to their treads, they could winch themselves vertically straight up and down like a yo-yo. :)
Maybe it's like my first dive after winter holidays. They grab a few extra rocks on their way down to make up for the extra buoyancy.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:29 PM   #8
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Ogres have to be pretty close to neutrally buoyant to move on a muddy or sandy lake bottom. (But not float.)
I just assumed they carried retractable flotation bags to get them closer to neutral. It also would allow them to adjust the buoyancy as needed to compensate for conditions.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:45 PM   #9
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I just assumed they carried retractable flotation bags to get them closer to neutral. It also would allow them to adjust the buoyancy as needed to compensate for conditions.
Bags would be really vulnerable, especially in an environment where everyone is slinging around nuclear weapons. If the bags were damaged while it was on the bottom it could wind up permanently submerged. I would think that if it were designed to be submersible from the get-go (and it would have to be: all the electronics and electrical would have to be sealed and pressure tested, gun barrels would have to be designed to be drained, etc.) then they would probably design it with buoyancy control spaces already integrated into its structure, along with pressurized air systems to control them. It's a very large vehicle, I can't imagine they couldn't find space for it.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:48 PM   #10
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Ninja'd. I was going to say, blow tanks like a submarine has would fit the bill nicely, and the Ogre should be large enough to hide some inside the layers of the BPC - or even make an interior layer of the BPC honeycombed to allow air to pass through.
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