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Old 08-17-2017, 11:33 AM   #181
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Knights of Celestia

"Wherever the demons of the Abyss appear, the Knights of Celestia will be there to help."

Formed in response to the threat of the Demon Lords of the Abyss, the Knights of Celestia are a group of demon hunters, peacekeepers, and even the occasional being that could only be called "angels" who are dedicated to pushing back against the demons, protecting the innocent from demonic incursion and taking actions to prevent future incursions. Most use magic in some form to travel between worlds, and are hesitant to let others know other worlds exist. Sometimes, however, the Knights recognize that a world is lost to the demons and acts to transplant survivors to a world where they can start over.

The weaponry of the Knights changes in respect to the local tech levels. Some Knights wear armor and carry magic swords and shields; others carry guns, laser, blasters, and a few carry energy swords and force shield bracers. Cybernetic replacements, bionic enhancements, and biomods aren't unknown among ultra-tech Knights, either.

Since the Knights often use magic to combat darker magic, some see them as foolishly fighting a losing battle. However, the Knights' magic does not use mana, instead being channeled from an entity of pure light. (In game terms, they use Power Investiture, not Magery.) Most Knights call their magical patron "God", though many also claim to be channeling the power of "angels", "saints", "the stars", and "the Light" (one sect inside the Knights calls it "The Force"); the exact nature of the patron is unknown.

The origin of the Knights is lost to antiquity. They acknowledge a supreme leadership, a Patriarch of the Order, but most Knights operate in small groups independent of the main group. They often work alongside native heroes against the demons, usually but not always acting as the leaders of the groups. If there is a world out there that has the local name Celestia, it has not been located.

The Cabal are fairly antagonistic to the Knights, since the Cabal often makes use of the Abyss for their own ends. Centrum acknowledges the Knights as a disinterested third party whose agenda doesn't conflict with their own; Infinity doesn't know what to think of the Knights. More humanitarian factions inside Infinity accept their help without question; more militant factions see the Knights as meddlers who break the Secret when it pleases them. Reich-5 wish to bring the Knights under the control of the Führer, which the Knights unanimously reject.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #182
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You did choose to make that contribution in the middle of the discussion of Coventry...
Given the number of posts the Coventry discussion has generated, perhaps it could be spun off as its own thread?
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Given the number of posts the Coventry discussion has generated, perhaps it could be spun off as its own thread?
If we could get a mod to cleanly move all those posts, that's probably the best idea.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:49 PM   #184
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The limitation on investiture is that in the absence of a population of the faithful you can't do much better than low sanctity except in a few "holy" places where the power source in question has manifested directly.

But actually these guys remind me of one of my magical styles a curious lot known as the Pure Ones. They were mages vowed to only use magic to reduce "Chaos", which as they saw it limited their use of magic to spells of healing, repair, buffs, and counter magic with their ultimate goal being to reduce virtually the entire world to zero mana save for a few oases of normal mana under their exclusive control where they would provide healing. If they discovered a network of interplanar Portals...
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:00 PM   #185
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I see Paladins from World Of Warcraft channeling the light.

One somewhat inexplicable character that has yet to be given a backstory in the recent expansion is the one holy dreadlord; a type of "upper middle management" demon. A single golden demon fighting for the light despite no other evidence of that even being possible.

Could this army of light also have such a weird character?
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:09 PM   #186
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I see Paladins from World Of Warcraft channeling the light.

One somewhat inexplicable character that has yet to be given a backstory in the recent expansion is the one holy dreadlord; a type of "upper middle management" demon. A single golden demon fighting for the light despite no other evidence of that even being possible.

Could this army of light also have such a weird character?
Don't see why not. Some factions of the Knights might reject any creature with "demon taint", but others might welcome any willing to fight the spread of the Abyss.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:12 PM   #187
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I see Paladins from World Of Warcraft channeling the light.

One somewhat inexplicable character that has yet to be given a backstory in the recent expansion is the one holy dreadlord; a type of "upper middle management" demon. A single golden demon fighting for the light despite no other evidence of that even being possible.

Could this army of light also have such a weird character?
I don't see why not, though I don't doubt he'd either be proof of a redeemed demon (which could send some local religions into a frenzy) and/or distrusted because of his demonic nature.

As for the Investiture, if using Magic-as-Powers it'd probably be more akin to a Pact limitation as or in addition to the Divine power modifier. It'd also probably work best if "all good religions have a grain of truth" is a setting conceit, making most places that aren't demon-infested hellholes normal sanctity for their purposes.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:08 PM   #188
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The Abyss- expansion

The thing about the abyss is that, it's not a unified government, its not a singular body. Demon's don't like each other, and the only reason they follow another is because they have been dominated, curtailed, or fear such again.

As such there are almost as many demons attempting to retard the spread of the abyss as there are those trying to spread it. Make no mistake, very few of these demons are 'noble', 'good' or even 'not sociopath mass murderers'; what they are is SELFISH- the longer they can keep a world from falling apart the longer they can get exclusive or semi-exclusive 'feeding rights'.

Even the demon lords don't act in concert, there warped natures prevents them from directly visiting worlds until they are more abyss than separate world-line- and they are forever hatching schemes to have followers on those worlds enact great rituals that transform the world enough to admit them (and only THEM not the other demon lords).

It is the damage from those attempts and scheming and kidnapping missions to feed the various demon lords that eventually plummets a world into the abyss. Even with the eventuality of getting SOME of the souls once the world falls, demon lords will routinely work to 'shore up' a world that they have a strong presence in to keep it more exclusively in their domain.

Thus while it can be argued that it is an eventuality that every world will eventually fall to the abyss, it is more practically like talking about the heat death or cold death of a universe.

Ironically worlds with low manna, or no manna (which the demons arrive to via other means) are generally plummeted to the abyss sooner, as the difficulty of operating there tends to lead to a 'feeding frenzy' by whoever found it first, and without ambient manna the demons cannot 'shore up' the world.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:45 PM   #189
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Of course Demon Lords that do not like the one dominating world xy work to make it fall all the quicker. Incessant civil wars and assassinations would be the normal 'order' of things in the Abyss.

I suspect that creatures born to the Abyssal worlds, such as demons, cannot be Resurrected without immense and immediate effort.

Edit: Non Demons can be resurrected if they have not been on one of the Abyssal planes long enough to be corrupted just from being there.
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:44 AM   #190
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I just saw something that could fit a breakdown of reality in a Lovecraftian way if it hit a universe like sitcoms and 80s/90s TV. I'm often prone to hyperbole, but this is without a doubt, literally the weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life.
Too Many Cooks from Adult Swim.
I'm not going to link it for fear... I'm not even sure why, but it feels like speaking the name of Nyarlathotep, or Beatlejuice.
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