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Old 07-05-2010, 11:39 AM   #1
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Default Unofficial Car Wars 5th Edition VDS

Could the following thread be added as a Sticky? It is not easily found. Thanks.

Unofficial Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design System
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=46297
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:53 PM   #2
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Could the following thread be added as a Sticky? It is not easily found. Thanks.

Unofficial Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design System
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=46297
I was just logging on to look for this tonight also, thanks!

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Old 07-07-2010, 06:33 PM   #3
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I think it's so great what chaoticsystem did with these rules reverse-engineering them and stuff. The rules were already hidden in the books, he just extracted them and put them on the forums. It's like our own super-geeky version of that movie National Treasure or something. ;-)
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Old 10-01-2016, 04:09 PM   #4
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Hello,

Following is a repost of the Unofficial 5th Ed. VDS, first posted by Chaoticsyst3m with a followups by tikiphantom and Stoob:

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I love the simpler, faster rules of Car Wars Fifth Edition, but its one weakness is its lack of vehicle design rules. I wanted my friends to be able to make their own cars for autoduels, so I reverse engineered the cars from all the 5e books to figure out the cost/weight/space of all the various components. I printed up my 5e vehicle design instructions and made copies for my friends. I thought I'd post them here in case anyone out there might find them useful.

BODY SIZE
Subcompact - $600, 1000 lbs., max weight 2800 lbs., max space 7, HC 2.
Compact - $800, 1300 lbs., max weight 4500 lbs., max space 10, HC 1.
Mid-size - $1200, 1600 lbs., max weight 5800 lbs., max space 13, HC 1.
Luxury - $1600, 1800 lbs., max weight 6600 lbs., max space 19, HC 1.

POWER PLANT
Small - $500, 200 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 2000 power.
Medium - $1000, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 4 DP, 4000 power.
Large - $1500, 500 lbs., 3 spaces, 6 DP, 6000 power.
Super - $2000, 650 lbs., 4 spaces, 8 DP, 8000 power.
Sport - $2500, 850 lbs., 5 spaces, 10 DP, 10000 power.
Super Sport - $3000, 1000 lbs., 6 spaces, 12 DP, 12000 power.

Platinum Catalysts - $500, 25 lbs., +1000 power.
Superconductors - $1000, +1500 power.

A car with power equal to or greater than its weight will accelerate 10 mph and have a top speed of 90 mph. A car with power equal to or greater than twice its weight will accelerate 20 mph and have a top speed of 100 mph.

SUSPENSION
Improved Suspension - $500, +1 to HC.
Heavy Suspension - $1000, +2 to HC.

TIRES
Standard (4) - $200, 120 lbs., 4 DP.
Heavy-Duty (4) - $700, 170 lbs., 8 DP.
Solid (4) - $1700, 270 lbs., 12 DP.
Standard HP (4) - $700, 120 lbs., 2 DP, +1 to HC.
Heavy-Duty HP (4) - $1200, 170 lbs., 6 DP, +1 to HC.
Solid HP (4) - $2200, 270 lbs., 10 DP, +1 to HC.

HUMAN ELEMENT
Driver or Gunner - 150 lbs., 2 spaces.

WEAPONS
Anti-Tank Gun - To hit 7, 3d damage, $2500, 700 lbs., 3 spaces, 5 DP, 10 shots.
Blast Cannon - To hit 8, 4d damage, $5500, 600 lbs., 4 spaces, 5 DP, 10 shots.
Flamethrower - To hit 9, 1d damage, $750, 500 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots.
Flaming Oil Jet - $1175, 130 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 25 shots.
Heavy Laser - To hit 10, 3d damage, $8000, 550 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, unlimited shots.
Heavy Rocket - To hit 6, 3d damage, $200, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot.
HD Flamethrower - To hit 9, 2d damage, $1750, 750 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, 10 shots.
Incendiary Heavy Rocket - To hit 6, 3d damage, $400, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot.
Light Laser - To hit 10, 1d damage, $3000, 200 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, unlimited shots.
Machine Gun - To hit 8, 1d damage, $1500, 200 lbs., 1 space, 3 DP, 20 shots. (w/incendiary ammo +$250)
Medium Laser - To hit 10, 2d damage, $5500, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, unlimited shots.
Micro-Missile Launcher - To hit 7, 1d damage, $950, 125 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 10 shots.
Minedropper - $1000, 200 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots. (w/frag mines +10 shots)
Oil Jet - $500, 75 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 25 shots.
Paint Sprayer - $650, 75 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 25 shots.
Recoilless Rifle - To hit 8, 2d damage, $1850, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 4 DP, 10 shots.
Rocket Launcher - To hit 7, 2d damage, $1350, 250 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots.
Smokescreen - $350, 75 lbs., 1 space, 4 DP, 20 shots.
Sonic Cannon - To hit 9, 3d damage, $6000, 750 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, unlimited shots.
Spike Dropper - $300, 75 lbs., 1 space, 4 DP, 10 shots. (w/explosive spikes +$300)
Surge Rocket - To hit 6, no damage, $800, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot.
Variable-Fire Rocket Pod - To hit 6, 2d damage, $3050, 425 lbs., 3 spaces, 5 DP, 15 shots.
Vulcan Machine Gun - To hit 9, 2d damage, $2700, 400 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 20 shots. (w/incendiary ammo +$350)

The total spaces of weapons mounted on any one side must be less than half the car's maximum spaces.

EXTRAS
Body Blades - $100, 25 lbs.
Discharger - Cost varies, 5 lbs. (Flaming Oil $100, Oil $50, Paint $50, Smoke $50)
Extra Magazine - Cost and weight varies by weapon, 1 space, +1 DP. (Anti-Tank Gun $550, 115 lbs., Blast Cannon $1050, 115 lbs., Flamethrower $300, 65 lbs., Flaming Oil Jet $925, 65 lbs., HD Flamethrower $550, 115 lbs., Machine Gun $550, 65 lbs., Machine Gun w/incendiary ammo $800, 65 lbs., Micro-Missile Launcher $250, 40 lbs., Minedropper $550, 65 lbs., Oil Jet $300, 65 lbs., Paint Sprayer $300, 65 lbs., Recoilless Rifle $400, 65 lbs., Rocket Launcher $400, 65 lbs., Smokescreen $150, 65 lbs., Spike Dropper $250, 65 lbs., Spike Dropper w/explosive spikes $550, 65 lbs., Variable-Fire Rocket Pod $1100, 240 lbs., Vulcan Machine Gun $750, 115 lbs., Vulcan Machine Gun w/incendiary ammo $1100, 115 lbs.)
Fire Extinguisher - $300, 150 lbs., 1 space.
Heavy Ramplate - $1000, 500 lbs.
Heavy Structural Reinforcement - $1000, 500 lbs., +10 to confetti number.
Light Ramplate - $500, 300 lbs.
Link - $50.
Low Profile - $250, 1 space.
Spoiler - $500, 100 lbs, +1 to HC.
Structural Reinforcement - $500, 250 lbs., +5 to confetti number.
Targeting Computer - $1000.
Turret (1-space) - $1000, 150 lbs.
Turret (2-space) - $1500, 200 lbs.
Ultra-Low Profile - $500, 2 spaces, +10 mph to top speed.
Wheel Armor - $1000, 100 lbs., 5 DP (for all four wheels). (fire-resistant $1500, fireproof $2000)

ARMOR
Subcompact - $10, 5 lbs. (fire-resistant $15, fireproof $20)
Compact - $12, 6 lbs. (fire-resistant $18, fireproof $24)
Mid-size - $15, 8 lbs. (fire-resistant $22.5, fireproof $30)
Luxury - $20, 10 lbs. (fire-resistant $30, fireproof $40)

CONFETTI NUMBER
A car's confetti number is equal to its total weight divided by 75.
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1.Station Wagon- $1600, 1800 lbs, max weight lbs 6600, space 14(+7) HC 1
Station Wagon- $20, 10 lbs, (Fire resistant $30, Fireproof $40)

2.Pickup- $1800, 2100 lbs, max weight lbs 7500, space 13(+11) HC 1
Pickup- $22, 11 lbs, (Fire resistant $35, Fireproof $45)

3.Camper-$2800, 2300 lbs, max weight lbs 7500, space 17(+7) HC 0
Camper-$25, 14 lbs, (Fire resistant $40, Fireproof $50)

4.Van- $2000, 2000 lbs, max weight lbs 7000, space 24(+6) HC 0
Van- $25, 14 lbs, (Fire restistant $40, Fireproof $50)

Cycles and Trikes next!
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Sedan - $1400, 1700 lbs., max weight 6200 lbs., max space 16, HC 1.
Sedan - $18, 9 lbs. (fire-resistant $27, fireproof $36)

(personally, one of my favorite body sizes)
Unfortunately, nothing on bikes/trikes followed.

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Old 10-01-2016, 10:03 PM   #5
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I just edited up one of the remaining posts I had at the top of the Classic thread to make an FAQ section for 5th edition and added the above info.
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Old 10-02-2016, 02:52 AM   #6
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I just edited up one of the remaining posts I had at the top of the Classic thread to make an FAQ section for 5th edition and added the above info.
Thanks for the update!

I am thinking of running Convoy using 5th edition rules but without a full VDS, I may just run with CW5 rules but using the CCW designs in the book. From what I can tell turns are quicker and combat is much deadlier (far less modifiers, the range of to-hit numbers is wider) but designs are not radically different. If I am using all CCW designs they will at least be consistent with each other if not CW5 designs.

There are a couple CW5 questions I can bring up in the FAQ/Errata thread. One is how to interpret the gibberish that is the rule for spinning.

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