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Old 08-01-2017, 07:39 AM   #1
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Default [Low-Tech Loadouts] Etruscan Warrior, 7th to 3rd century B.C.

I've tried to reconstruct some loadouts based only on strictly historical evidence. I think there are some grammatical errors. Unfortunately, my English is far from perfection.

Main Sources:
- Archaeological Museum of Florence
- G. Camporeale, “Etruscans: History and Civilization”
- M. Martinelli, “The spear, the sword, the horse. The phenomenon of war in Etruria and Central Italy between Bronze Age and Iron Age”
- S. Menchelli, F. Magno, G. Piero Orsingher, “Etruscan Warriors”

Etruscans adopted the hoplite phalanx from Greeks around early 7th century B.C., a period which also saw the rise of urban centres in Etruria. The model of citizen phalanx became prevalent over the model of aristocratic war bands without replacing it completely (as an example, in the disastrous defeat of Roman gens Fabia by the hands of the Etruscan city of Veii, occurred in 477 B.C.). According to prescriptions of Libri Rituales, soldiers were divided into classes based on census: 1st class soldiers (Status 1-2) fought as hoplites in full panoply; 2nd class (Status 0) and 3rd class (Status -1) soldiers were less armoured hoplites without bronze cuirass (replaced by a smaller pectoral, a quilted linen or layered leather corselets or, for some of the 3rd class, not replaced at all) and greaves, and they were often equipped with rectangular shields greater than the Argive. The 4th class includes a wide variety of troops: archers, axemen (men in full hoplitic armour armed with two-handed axes, at first employed for breaking the spears of enemy phalanxes and lately discarded), light cavalry, skirmishers, slingers and mercenaries. Most of the latter were engaded from Italic populations, but some were Greeks, Gauls, Sardinians and possibly Illyrians. Heavy cavalrymen didn't actually fought on horseback: they were mounted infantry and they often constituted the commander's bodyguards.

Armour
Broadly speaking, Etruscan Hoplites were armed in a similar manner of their Greek counterparts: a long spear with butt spike (dory), a shortsword (both straight and recurved types were in use), the Argive shield (aspis), a variety of bronze helmets (both open and closed, often crested), cuirass (bronze plate – thorax, bronze or iron scale, quilted linen – linothorax and layered leather spolas), a kilt of overlapping quilted linen stripes (pteruges) and bronze greaves (knèmides). Despite strong Greek influence, there were some differences in clothing and weaponry. Etruscan chitôn, made of wool or linen, usually covered the shoulders, and local leather shoes were usually preferred over Greek-style sandals. Iron or bronze scale cuirasses seemed to be more common in Etruria than in Greece (as shown in the bronze statue of Mars of Todi and several other statues and paintings). Rarely, pteruges could be replaced by a sort of mail skirt made of butted rings, attached to the bottom of the bronze cuirass or a wide bronze belt – which is probably the most ancient kind of mail armour having archaeological evidence. Two 5th century terracotta statues of Falerii represent warriors in full panoply, featuring a linothorax with shoulder guards and bronze thigh guards that wrap around the upper thighs (the latter probably considered obsolete in coeval Greece).

Helmets
Several types of helmets were in use: “Attic” and “Calcidian” (treat both as Pot Helm + Nape Guard + Cheek Guards; ears are left unprotected, and sometimes “Attic” helmets had no cheek guards), several variations of “Corinthian” (treat full enclosed models as Full Helm; treat more open models, some of them astonishing similar to the late medieval “Barbuta”, as Bascinet + Cheek Guards, sometimes with a Nasal), “Etruscan-Corinthian” (shaped like the “Corinthian” helmet but worn like a skullcap; treat as Pot Helm, with a possible addition of the Nape Guard), “Negau” (treat as Pot Helm + Brim) and, from 4th century B.C., the Gaulish “Montefortino” (treat as Pot Helm + Cheek Guards; sometimes it had a brim, and cheek guards may be non-metallic). Simple bronze skullcaps were also in use both before and after the introduction of the phalanx. Villanovan pot helms had very high bronze crests and were often decorated with geometrical motives, while another kind of ancient helmet consists in a base made of wicker reinforced with bronze phaleras.

Shields
As for the Greeks, the Argive shield (aspis) was the shield of choice for hoplites (see Argive Shield, Low-Tech, p. 115). Treat rectangular shields used by 2nd and 3rd class infantry as Heavy Large Shield (Low-Tech, p. 114) with the Shield (Buckler) specialty. More ancient shields and shields used by light cavalry should qualify as Medium Homeric Buckler (Low-Tech, p. 115), while other shields used by Italic and Gaulish mercenaries should qualify as Light or Heavy Medium Shield (Low-Tech, p. 114) with the Shield (Buckler) specialty.

Aspis: DB 2, $ 120, 15 lbs, DR 4, HP 20, Cover DR 9, +1 DB when used in a shield wall.
Large Infantry Shield: DB 3, $ 90, 20 lbs, DR 4, HP 22, Cover DR 9.
Villanovan Shield: DB 2, $ 100, 16 lbs, DR 4, HP 21, Cover DR 9.
Medium Infantry Shield, Light: DB 2, $ 45, 7 lbs, DR 2, HP 16, Cover DR 6.
Medium Infantry Shield, Heavy: DB 2, $ 60, 14 lbs, DR 4, HP 20, Cover DR 9.

Weapons
Spears, shortswords and knives made of bronze or iron were the weapons of choice for the majority of soldiers, especially for 1st, 2nd and 3rd classes. Usually, spears used by hoplites were similar to Greek Dory, including a butt spike at the end (treat them as Long Spear with Butt Spike), but shorter spears were used as well, especially from skirmishers and light cavalry (treat them as Spear, some of them also having Butt Spike, or as Javelin). Some spears had impressive bronze long spikes more than 70 cm long, like the one exposed in the Archeological Museum of Florence (treat them as Spear with Long Spike). The Pilum, which was lately adopted by Romans for centuries, was already in use in 5th century Etruria, as shown by several grave findings.
Shortswords were straight thrusting swords (treat them as Long Knife or Shortsword), recurved chopping swords with concave blades (treat them as Kukri, Small Falchion or Falchion) or short heavy sabres (treat them as Shortsword with the Falchion modify). Some chopping swords were of broadsword size (treat them as Large Falchion). Gaulish mercenaries used straight broadswords, often with no proper point (treat them as Broadsword, more rarely as Thrusting Broadsword). Weapons assimilable to Dagger, Small Knife and Large Knife were ubiquitous.
Axes were also in use. Axemen of 4th class were armed with two-handed axes (treat them as Axe; Long Axe is also possible, but it's unlikely), and smaller axes were in use both as weapons and as utensils (treat them as Hatchet or Small Axe). Double-bitted axes were brought by commanders as symbol of authority but it's unlikely they were actually used in combat (treat them as Small Axe with an adjunctive Axe Head). Stone-head maces and wooden clubs weren't weapons of choice for the vast majority of fighters during the Italian Iron Age, with the possible exception of Sardinians.
Javelins and slings were the main ranged weapons during this period. Most bows used in warfare were self-bows of short or average size (treat them as Short Bow or Regular Bow). Longbows were known in Europe since the Neolithic, but they don't seem to be in use in the Mediterranean area, or at least their use was very infrequent. Some bows imported from Egypt and the Levant might qualify as Straight Composite Bow or as Reflex Bow.

AXE/MACE (Low-Tech, p. 65)
* Axe
* Hatchet
* Small Axe
* Small Axe + Axe Head (Rare/Ceremonial) (see Axe Head, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors pp. 13-14)
* Small Round Mace

BROADSWORD (Low-Tech, pp. 65-66)
* Large Falchion

KNIFE (Low-Tech, p. 67)
* Dagger
* Kukri
* Large Knife
* Long Knife
* Short Baton
* Small Knife

SHORTSWORD (Low-Tech, p. 69)
* Baton
* Falchion
* Shortsword
* Shortsword + Falchion modify (see Falchion, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors p. 12)
* Small Falchion

SPEAR (Low-Tech, p. 69)
* Javelin
* Long Spear
* Long Spear + Butt Spike (see Butt Spike – Small Spear Point, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors p. 14)
* Pilum (see Pilum, [B]Low-Tech,[B] p. 73)
* Spear
* Spear + Butt Spike (see Butt Spike – Small Spear Point, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors p. 14)
* Spear + Long Spike (see Spearhead – Long Spike, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors p. 15)
* Spear + Butt Spike + Long Spike (see Butt Spike – Small Spear Point and Spearhead – Long Spike, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors pp. 14-15)

TWO-HANDED AXE/MACE (Low-Tech, p. 70)
* Axe

BOW (Low-Tech, p. 76)
* Regular Bow
* Short Bow

SLING (Low-Tech, p. 76)
* Heavy Sling
* Sling

OTHER POSSIBLE WEAPONS
* Axe + Axe Head (Rare/Ceremonial) (see Axe Head, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors pp. 13-14)
* Broadsword (Gaulish)
* Great Axe (Rare/Ceremonial)
* Heavy Spear
* Heavy Spear + Butt Spike (see Butt Spike – Small Spear Point, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors p. 14)
* Knobbed Club
* Long Axe (Rare)
* Long Axe + Axe Head (Rare/Ceremonial) (see Axe Head, Low-Tech, Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors pp. 13-14)
* Longbow (Germanic)
* Pike (Macedonian)
* Reflex Bow (Eastern)
* Round Mace
* Short Spear
* Sickle
* Straight Composite Bow (Eastern)
* Thrusting Broadsword (Gaulish)

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Old 08-01-2017, 07:40 AM   #2
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LOADOUTS

NOTES
Ethnic Names: All the ethnic names are Greeks, not Etruscans, because not very much Etruscan words are known and only very few of them refer to military lexicon (Cilth = Fortress, Husrna/Huzrna = Army, Macstrevc = Military Command, Zat- = Axe, Zatlath = Bodyguard).
Nape Guard: Some helmets have a protection for the nape that doesn't include the ears. A Nape Guard protects the back of the face (the back of area 5) but not the ears. Cost and weight are 20% of base Pot Helm (4% of torso armor).
Scale Armor: In GURPS Low-Tech, Medium Scale Armor weights as much as Heavy Layered Cloth and it had the same DR 4, with an additional -1 DR vs. crushing. In order to correct these bad stats, in my HRs:
- Light Scale Armor: DR 3 (2 vs. crushing), 16 lbs, $ 400 [LT: $ 320].
- Medium Scale Armor: DR 4 (3 vs. crushing), 24 lbs [LT: 28 lbs], $ 600 [LT: $ 550].
- Heavy Scale Armor: DR 5 (4 vs. crushing) [LT: DR 5], 32 lbs [LT: 40 lbs], $ 800 [LT: $1,100].
Both Low-Tech and House Rules stats are reported when necessary (anyway, only in one of four loadouts below).

Etruscan 2nd Class Hoplite, 5th to 3rd century (reconstructed from 5th century archeological findings)

ARMOUR AND CLOTHING

*) Tunic – Chitôn.
Type: Ordinary Clothing (Status 0) || Locations: Torso, shoulders (110%) || DR 0 || Holdout 0 || Don 17 || Weight: 1.76 lbs || Cost: $ 52.8

*) Shoes.
Type: Shoes || Locations: Feet (20%) || DR 1* (0* vs. impaling) || Holdout -3 || Don 6 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 40 || Notes: The soles, being thicker, give DR 2 vs. all attacks.

*) Greaves – Knèmides.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Knees, shins (55%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 24 || Weight: 4.4 lbs || Cost: $ 2,200 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 1-4 on 1d.

*) Helmet (Negau) [Pot Helm + Brim].
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze, One-Piece Helmet) || Locations: Skull, eyes (23%) || DR 3 || Holdout -4 || Don 11 || Weight: 1.38 lbs || Cost: $ 2,990 || Notes: Protects the face a roll of 6 on 1d. If the threat originates from above, the brim protects the face on a roll of 2-6 on 1d.
- Helmet Padding (skull only): DR 1* || Don 3 || + 1.2 lbs || + $ 10
- Total: DR 4 (skull), DR 3 (face, 6 to 2-6 on 1d) || Don 14 || 2.58 lbs || $ 3,000

*) Pectoral – Cardiophylax.
Type: Plate, DR 4 (Bronze) || Locations: Upper chest (front, partial) (10%) || DR 4 || Holdout -4 || Don 5 || Weight: 1.2 lbs || Cost: $ 600 || Notes: Protects the upper chest (front, including vitals) on a roll of 1-3 on 1d. An attack to the upper chest aimed at avoiding it takes -3; one targeting chinks in armor on the vitals takes -9.

TOTAL (ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 66 || 11.94 lbs || $ 5,892.8

WEAPONS

*) Large Shield, Heavy: DB 3, $ 90, 20 lbs, Don 1, DR 4, HP 22, Cover DR 9.

*) Long Knife: $ 120, 1.5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Pilum: $ 40, 4 lbs, Don 1.

*) Shortsword: $ 400, 2 lbs, Don 1.

TOTAL (WEAPONS): Don 4 || 27.5 lbs || $ 650

TOTAL (WEAPONS, ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 70 || 39.44 lbs || $ 6,542.8

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Etruscan 1st Class Hoplite, 6th to 4th century (based on Terracotta Warriors from Temple of Fallen Stones, Falerii)

ARMOUR AND CLOTHING

*) Tunic – Chitôn.
Type: Ordinary Clothing (Status 1) || Locations: Torso, shoulders (110%) || DR 0 || Holdout 0 || Don 17 || Weight: 1.76 lbs || Cost: $ 105.6

*) Shoes.
Type: Shoes || Locations: Feet (20%) || DR 1* (0* vs. impaling) || Holdout -3 || Don 6 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 40 || Notes: The soles, being thicker, give DR 2 vs. all attacks.

*) Corselet – Linothorax.
Type: Layered Cloth, Medium || Locations: Chest, shoulders (85%) || DR 3 || Holdout -2 || Don 26 || Weight: 17 lbs || Cost: $ 297.5 || Notes: Protects the arms on a roll of 6 on 1d.

*) Greaves – Knèmides.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Knees, shins (55%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 24 || Weight: 4.4 lbs || Cost: $ 2,200 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 1-4 on 1d.

*) Helmet (Calcidian) – Pilos [Pot Helm + Cheek Guards + Nape Guard + Crest].
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze, One-Piece Helmet) || Locations: Skull, face (back), cheeks (26%) || DR 3 || Holdout -8 || Don 12 || Weight: 2.56 lbs || Cost: $ 3,400 || Notes: Protects the face a roll of 4-5 on 1d. Crest gives +1 SM for Intimidation.
- Helmet Padding: DR 1* || Don 4 || + 1.56 lbs || + $ 13
- Total: DR 4 || Don 16 || 4.12 lbs || $ 3,413

*) Kilt – Pteruges.
Type: Layered Cloth, Light || Locations: Abdomen (25%) || DR 2* || Holdout 0 || Don 5 || Weight: 3 lbs || Cost: $ 37.5

*) Thigh Guards – Paramèridion.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Upper thighs (25%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 12 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 1,000 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 6 on 1d. Inside thigh is exposed when on foot (see Loadouts: Low-Tech Armor, Armor Gap – Inside Thigh, p. 4).

TOTAL (ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 106 || 34.28 lbs || $ 7,093.6

WEAPONS

*) Argive Shield: DB 2, $ 120, 15 lbs, Don 2, DR 4, HP 20, Cover DR 9, +1 DB when used in a shield wall.

*) Long Knife: $ 120, 1.5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Long Spear + Butt Spike: $ 80, 5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Small Falchion: $ 200, 2 lbs, Don 1.

TOTAL (WEAPONS): Don 5 || 23.5 lbs || $ 520

TOTAL (WEAPONS, ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 111 || 57.78 lbs || $ 7,613.6

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Are you sure the shin guards and helmet are $2000 each? that sounds a little excessive. especially given that the breastplate is $600.
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Etruscan 1st Class Hoplite, 6th to 4th century (based on Bronze Statue of Mars of Todi, Volsinii)

ARMOUR AND CLOTHING

*) Tunic – Chitôn.
Type: Ordinary Clothing (Status 2) || Locations: Torso, shoulders (110%) || DR 0 || Holdout 0 || Don 17 || Weight: 1.76 lbs || Cost: $ 264

*) Shoes.
Type: Shoes || Locations: Feet (20%) || DR 1* (0* vs. impaling) || Holdout -3 || Don 6 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 40 || Notes: The soles, being thicker, give DR 2 vs. all attacks.

*) Corselet – Pholidôtós
Type: Scale, Medium (Bronze) || Locations: Chest, upper abdomen (85%) || DR 4 (3 vs. crushing) || Holdout -4 || Don 26 || Weight: 23.8 lbs (GURPS Low-Tech) / 20.4 lbs (House Rules) || Cost: $ 1,870 (GURPS Low-Tech) / $ 2,040 (House Rules) || Notes: Protects the abdomen on a roll of 1-3 on 1d.

*) Greaves – Knèmides.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Knees, shins (55%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 24 || Weight: 4.4 lbs || Cost: $ 2,200 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 1-4 on 1d.

*) Helmet (Corinthian) – Kranos [Bascinet + Cheek Guards + Nasal + Crest].
Type: Plate, DR 4 (Bronze, One-Piece Helmet) || Locations: Skull, face (back), cheeks, ears, nose || DR 4 || Holdout -9 || Don 13 || Weight: 3.52 lbs || Cost: $ 5,480 || Notes: Protects the face on a roll of 2-5 on 1d. Gives Hard of Hearing (p. B138). Crest gives +1 SM for Intimidation.
- Helmet Padding: DR 1* || Don 5 || + 1.68 lbs || + $ 14
- Total: DR 5 || Don 18 || 5.2 lbs || $ 5,494

*) Kilt – Pteruges.
Type: Layered Cloth, Light || Locations: Lower abdomen, groin (15%) || DR 2* || Holdout 0 || Don 3 || Weight: 1.8 lbs || Cost: $ 22.5 || Notes: Protects the abdomen on a roll of 4-6 on 1d.

*) Thigh Guards – Paramèridion.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Upper thighs (25%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 12 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 1,000 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 6 on 1d. Inside thigh is exposed when on foot (see Loadouts: Low-Tech Armor, Armor Gap – Inside Thigh, p. 4).

TOTAL (ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 106 || 40.96 lbs (GURPS Low-Tech) / 37.56 lbs (House Rules) || $ 10,890.5 (GURPS Low-Tech) / $ 11,060.5 (House Rules)

WEAPONS

*) Argive Shield: DB 2, $ 120, 15 lbs, Don 2, DR 4, HP 20, Cover DR 9, +1 DB when used in a shield wall.

*) Long Knife: $ 120, 1.5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Long Spear + Butt Spike: $ 80, 5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Shortsword + Falchion modify: $ 500, 3 lbs, Don 1.

TOTAL (WEAPONS): Don 5 || 24.5 lbs || $ 820

TOTAL (WEAPONS, ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 111 || 65.46 lbs (GURPS Low Tech) / 62.06 lbs (House Rules) || $ 11,710.5 (GURPS Low Tech) / $ 11,880.5 (House Rules)

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Etruscan Heavy Cavalryman (Zatlath), 5th to 4th century (reconstructed from 5th century archeological findings)

ARMOUR AND CLOTHING

*) Tunic – Chitôn.
Type: Ordinary Clothing (Status 2) || Locations: Torso, shoulders (110%) || DR 0 || Holdout 0 || Don 17 || Weight: 1.76 lbs || Cost: $ 264

*) Cloak – Tebenna.
Type: Cloak (Purple-Dyed, +9 CF) || Locations: Torso (back), shoulders, thighs (back) (82.5%) || DR 0 || Holdout 0 || Don 20 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 400

*) Short Boots – Calcei.
Type: Shoes, Medium Leather || Locations: Feet (20%) || DR 2* (1* vs. impaling) || Holdout -4 || Don 6 || Weight: 2.5 lbs || Cost: $ 45 || Notes: The soles, being thicker, give DR 2 vs. all attacks.

*) Cuirass – Thorax.
Type: Plate, DR 4 (Bronze) || Locations: Chest (75%) || DR 4 || Holdout -4 || Don 34 || Weight: 9 lbs || Cost: $ 4,500

*) Girdle – Zoster.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Upper abdomen (10%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 5 || Weight: 0.8 lbs || Cost: $ 400 || Notes: Protects the abdomen on a roll of 1-3 on 1d.

*) Greaves – Knèmides.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Knees, shins (55%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 24 || Weight: 4.4 lbs || Cost: $ 2,200 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 1-4 on 1d.

*) Helmet (Corinthian) – Kranos [Full Helm + Crest].
Type: Plate, DR 4 (Bronze, One-Piece Helmet) || Locations: Skull, face || DR 4 || Holdout -9 || Don 14 || Weight: 3.7 lbs || Cost: $ 5,870 || Notes: Gives Hard of Hearing (p. B138) and No Peripheral Vision (p. B151). Crest gives +1 SM for Intimidation.
- Helmet Padding (skull only): DR 1* || Don 3 || + 1.2 lbs || + $ 10
- Total: DR 5 on skull, DR 4 over the entire face || Don 17 || 4.9 lbs || $ 5,880

*) Mail Skirt – Pteruges.
Type: Mail, Light (Butted Mail) || Locations: Lower abdomen, groin (15%) || DR 3* (1* vs crushing and impaling) || Holdout -1 || Don 3 || Weight: 1.8 lbs || Cost: $ 30 || Notes: Protects the abdomen on a roll of 4-6 on 1d.

*) Thigh Guards – Paramèridion.
Type: Plate, Light (Bronze) || Locations: Upper thighs (25%) || DR 3 || Holdout -3 || Don 12 || Weight: 2 lbs || Cost: $ 1,000 || Notes: Protects the legs on a roll of 6 on 1d. Inside thigh is exposed when on foot (see Loadouts: Low-Tech Armor, Armor Gap – Inside Thigh, p. 4).

TOTAL (ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 138 || 29.16 lbs || $ 14,719

WEAPONS

*) Argive Shield: DB 2, $ 120, 15 lbs, Don 2, DR 4, HP 20, Cover DR 9, +1 DB when used in a shield wall.

*) Large Falchion: $ 625, 4.5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Long Knife: $ 120, 1.5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Long Spear + Butt Spike: $ 80, 5 lbs, Don 1.

*) Ceremonial Double-Bitted Axe (Small Axe + Axe Head): $ 75, 4 lbs, Don 1

TOTAL (WEAPONS): Don 6 || 30 lbs || $ 1,020

TOTAL (WEAPONS, ARMOUR AND CLOTHING): Don 144 || 59.16 lbs || $ 15,739

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Are you sure the shin guards and helmet are $2000 each? that sounds a little excessive. especially given that the breastplate is $600.
Yes, because of Bronze (+3 CF), and Helms are One-Piece Helmets (+9 CF).
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Yes, because of Bronze (+3 CF), and Helms are One-Piece Helmets (+9 CF).
Wow that's expensive. Though it is bronze, so fair is fair. I wouldn't expect this to be typical armament though.

One piece helmets... that's what Raw says. Though if you're using bronze, the numbers should probably change: you can cast a bronze helmet, just not an good iron one.
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Wow that's expensive. Though it is bronze, so fair is fair. I wouldn't expect this to be typical armament though.

One piece helmets... that's what Raw says. Though if you're using bronze, the numbers should probably change: you can cast a bronze helmet, just not an good iron one.
True. These prices just fit with those of GURPS Low-Tech. They can be customarily raised or lowered in order to fit with the historical reality (ex. in 1600's mail armour was by far more expensive than plate).

Anyway, Etruscan elites were incredibly rich. They had very fertile lands, rich mines of iron, copper, silver, sulphur and mercury and the near monopoly of the Mediterranean tin trade from Central Europe. They were plenty of bronze since Villanovan era (9th - 8th century B.C.).
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True. These prices just fit with those of GURPS Low-Tech. They can be customarily raised or lowered in order to fit with the historical reality (ex. in 1600's mail armour was by far more expensive than plate)
The prices in Low-Tech are not historical, they are based on utility. Otherwise no one would use mail and that's not realistic. The problem is that GURPS doesn't reflect many of the advantages of mail like being comfortable to wear and transport.
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Yes, because of Bronze (+3 CF), and Helms are One-Piece Helmets (+9 CF).
The rule for one piece helmets should only apply to iron, not bronze and only before TL4. One piece helmets are standard equipment at TL4.

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*) Helmet (Corinthian) – Kranos. Full Helm + Crest
LT Armor Loadouts (p. 13) lists a Greek Corinthian kranos as DR4, $3,930, 4 lbs. [2][3][4]

[2] -1 DR over the entire face.
[3] Gives Hard of Hearing (p. B138) and No Peripheral Vision (p. B151).
[4] Crest gives +1 SM for Intimidation (see Low-Tech, p. 113).
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Old 08-01-2017, 08:53 AM   #10
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Default Re: [Low-Tech Loadouts] Etruscan Warrior, 7th to 3rd century B.C.

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The +9CF rule for one piece helmets only applies to iron, not bronze.
Well, in that case I have to correct a bit the loadouts.
In your work - which is the base for mine - I've noticed that the +9 CF apply to bronze helmets too.

Please, if you notice some historical errors, report them. My goal is to be more historically accurate as possible.

I've considered the "Etruscan mail skirt" as Butted Light Mail to fit it with Low-Tech rules.

The listed price of Kranos reflects +9 CF of One-Piece Construction ($ 3,900). Without it, it should be $ 1,200. Regarding the Kranos, I've seen some exemplars a little thicker than DR 3 (they're thick as the cuirasses, so they're DR 4), and I've used two of them for the last two loadouts.

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