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Old 01-03-2016, 09:05 PM   #11
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I would just assume that defaults work both ways, but that isn't always the case.
For example, you can know Metallurgy at default from Chemistry-5, but you can't know Chemistry at default from Metallurgy-5.
I suppose I could just run down every single skill and look for any issues like this and create a list. It would just be a little time consuming.
I'll post it here if I do get around to doing it.
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:50 PM   #12
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I'm new to GURPS and I was wondering if there was some kind of graph to show all the skill defaults relations. It seems like such a logical thing to have. Apparently there isn't. I can't find it.
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:57 PM   #13
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...I was wondering if there was some kind of graph to show all the skill defaults relations.
The connectivity of such a graph would be incomplete. There are a lot of skills that don't default to other skills, and (I think) quite a few connected groups that don't connect to anything else.
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Old 01-04-2016, 04:57 PM   #14
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The connectivity of such a graph would be incomplete. There are a lot of skills that don't default to other skills, and (I think) quite a few connected groups that don't connect to anything else.
And you can't double-default, so it wouldn't have much game use.
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Old 01-04-2016, 06:23 PM   #15
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Another thing that would make this difficult is different books will have different defaults. Look at Armoury page 178 in the Basic Set and page 10 in Low Tech. You would need to choose what would be most appropriate for your game.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:43 PM   #16
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The connectivity of such a graph would be incomplete. There are a lot of skills that don't default to other skills, and (I think) quite a few connected groups that don't connect to anything else.
I've started on such a graph, I got as far as Naturalist today. Only looking at Basic. Most of it is quite straightforward. Only Engineer, Mathematics, Melee Weapon and Mimicry are really giving me problems. A few are indeed not connected, but most are.

I'll try to post the finished graph later this week.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:37 PM   #17
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I wrote a little Python script to pull the data out of GCS's skills data files and sum up the reverse skill defaults.

The output is too long to paste here. (Specializations bloat everything.) See

http://paste.pound-python.org/show/e...uhZwrdqhhxpxz/

for just the Basic Set. I'm happy to run any combination of data files found in GCS, or provide the script.
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Old 01-05-2016, 10:54 PM   #18
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I wrote a little Python script to pull the data out of GCS's skills data files and sum up the reverse skill defaults.

The output is too long to paste here. (Specializations bloat everything.) See

http://paste.pound-python.org/show/e...uhZwrdqhhxpxz/

for just the Basic Set. I'm happy to run any combination of data files found in GCS, or provide the script.
Nicely done!

If it's not too much trouble, including the penalties would add value.

E.g. instead of just
Code:
 'Acrobatics': {'Body Sense', 'Erotic Art'},
something like
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 'Acrobatics': {'-2: Body Sense', '-5: Erotic Art'},
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:26 PM   #19
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Good idea. Here are the reverse defaults from the Basic Set again, this time with modifiers:

http://paste.pound-python.org/show/S...Y8CZBOJyaUqW2/
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:07 PM   #20
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I too wanted a list like this. I took what dripton worked up (Thank you so much!) and tidied it up a bit and threw it into a Google Doc. 7 pages at 8pt. I hope others find it useful.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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