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Old 09-19-2013, 07:36 AM   #1
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Default [Powers] Using Affliction (Skill -1) for Passive Defense?

Hi,

Every once in a while someone asks how to do Passive Defense in 4e. The usual response is "All Enhanced Defenses added together." But what about using Affliction (Disadvantage, Skill -1 [-4]) instead? Would that work?

My initial thoughts are that it would need Time-Spanning, Past-Only and Reflexive. Plus it would need some way to cover *all* attack skills. Is there something about that in Power-Ups?

Any other thoughts?

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Old 09-19-2013, 08:48 AM   #2
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The only way to ensure you get a blanket -1 to all attack skills is to hit them with -1 DX and -1 IQ.
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:11 AM   #3
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Hi,

Every once in a while someone asks how to do Passive Defense in 4e. The usual response is "All Enhanced Defenses added together." But what about using Affliction (Disadvantage, Skill -1 [-4]) instead? Would that work?
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You can't afflict skills. You can afflict Dexterity.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: [Powers] Using Affliction (Skill -1) for Passive Defense?

Obscure (Anti-Targeting*, -20%; Defensive, +50%) [2.6/level] will penalize all attacks that use the affected sense by -1 per level, with no resistance allowed, like a blur effect.

Given the rules for hitting invisible foes, I think it maxes out at -6.


* GURPS Psionic Powers, p. 16. Obscure already affects attacks, this just limits the effect to attacks.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #5
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To match PD / Enhanced Defense, you would have to Afflict not one attacker, but all attackers. If ranged weapons are involved, it'd be a huge AE.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:11 AM   #6
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Default Re: [Powers] Using Affliction (Skill -1) for Passive Defense?

I suppose you could try to build something that penalized your opponents' attack rolls.

But that wouldn't be emulating PD, since PD was a bonus to the defender's active defenses, not a penalty to the attackers' attack rolls.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:06 AM   #7
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I suppose you could try to build something that penalized your opponents' attack rolls.

But that wouldn't be emulating PD, since PD was a bonus to the defender's active defenses, not a penalty to the attackers' attack rolls.
Good point.

Does the Total Enhanced Defenses method offer protection against attacks you can't defend against?
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:13 AM   #8
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Good point.

Does the Total Enhanced Defenses method offer protection against attacks you can't defend against?
Only if you add a Cosmic effect to them.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:30 AM   #9
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Good point.

Does the Total Enhanced Defenses method offer protection against attacks you can't defend against?
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Only if you add a Cosmic effect to them.
Just to be clear, what I meant was that (if I remember correctly) PD used to allow a person a roll even if they didn't Dodge, Block, or Parry. It'd only be against the 1-6 they had in PD, but that's still better than nothing. Does Total Enhanced Defenses allow that roll?
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:41 AM   #10
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Just to be clear, what I meant was that (if I remember correctly) PD used to allow a person a roll even if they didn't Dodge, Block, or Parry. It'd only be against the 1-6 they had in PD, but that's still better than nothing. Does Total Enhanced Defenses allow that roll?
Unless you place a 50% Cosmic to allow it, no.
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