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Old 11-22-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default Fast-draw (arrow) ....without the roll every turn?

I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious here, but how many CP of what does a character need to buy to get the effect of Fast-Draw without having to roll for it?

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Old 11-22-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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In my campaign, Fast-Draw (Arrow) at skill 16+, the Perk Rules Excemption (No-Nuisance Rolls allowed in combat with Fast-Draw (Arrow)) and finally the Perk No-Nuisance Rolls (Fast-Draw (Arrow)).

For someone with DX 12 and Combat Reflexes (or just DX 13), that's a total of 10 points. Cheaper if you have higher DX and more expensive if you have lower DX.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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Where in the book can I find the No-Nuisance Roll thingy? I remember seeing it before somewhere.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:38 PM   #4
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Where in the book can I find the No-Nuisance Roll thingy? I remember seeing it before somewhere.
GURPS Power-Ups 2: Perks p. 16.

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Old 11-22-2012, 01:38 PM   #5
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It is in a pyamrid article I believe. power ups 2?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:52 PM   #6
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Cool.

Is the Perk Rules Excemption (No-Nuisance Rolls allowed in combat with Fast-Draw (Arrow)) thingy your own idea or is that in there somewhere too?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:56 PM   #7
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Cool.

Is the Perk Rules Excemption (No-Nuisance Rolls allowed in combat with Fast-Draw (Arrow)) thingy your own idea or is that in there somewhere too?
Rules Excemption is in that book and given that No-Nuisance Rolls is by default not meant to work for combat skill rolls, I felt that it might be fair to charge a small additional surcharge for allowing an excemption from that.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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Thanks a bunch.

I'm reading the PDF now.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:25 PM   #9
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I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious here, but how many CP of what does a character need to buy to get the effect of Fast-Draw without having to roll for it?

Thanks in advance.
I have a Zen Buddhist archer character in my current weird horror campaign. I decided to use the Instant Shot technique from PK's website. It works perfect, you can find it here and I've reposted it here:

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Default: Bow-8 for most archers, Bow-5 if you have either Heroic Archer or a version of Weapon Master that includes bows, or Bow-3 if you have both. Cannot exceed Bow.
Prerequisite: Bow-16+ and Fast-Draw (Arrow)-16+.

You draw, nock, and fire an arrow all in one smooth motion as a single attack (one maneuver instead of three). This replaces the three rolls normally required for quick-shooting bows (GURPS Martial Arts, p. 119).

(This technique buys off the normal Bow penalty, plus another -1 for "Only one Bow roll required instead of two" and -1 for "No Fast-Draw roll required." The minimum skills make this fair; in effect, you're simply avoiding nuisance rolls.)
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:25 PM   #10
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One of the key points is a skill of 16+, so that the only failure would occur on a 17/18. (~1.38%). If you have Fast-Draw Arrow 10, then you don't get to take "No Nuisance Rolls" on it, because for you, the roll isn't a mere nuisance, but highly likely to fail.
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