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Too damned many nitrogens on that thing...
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Reading up on the history, centerfire designs predate metallic cartridges, so if you showed Spencer a sample centerfire cartridge in 1858 and explained to him why it was a good idea, he'd probably skip the S&W patent and use a centerfire design instead. It was certainly within the mechanical means - needle rifles are more complicated than centerfire rifles but basically the same principle, and Dreyse rifles were adopted by 1848.
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11-08-2017, 08:53 PM | #43 | |
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For a blackpowder repeater there's no real competition to the Winchester and then when you get smokeless powder your first repeater for that is probably the Mauser (possibly the Lee-Enfield if you're a sentimental Anglophile).
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In this case building the lab from the machine shop isn't strictly impossible just really cinematic. It isn't quite as bad as building a bionic prosthetic in a medieval smithy. |
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11-08-2017, 09:31 PM | #47 |
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You can probably turn out glassware and burners and such relatively freely, but a TL8 chemistry lab has a bunch of electronic instruments in it. If you can build those in the machine shop, it's only by using up fairly specialized and irreplaceable pre-existing parts.
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11-08-2017, 09:55 PM | #48 |
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Re: Making more ammo stuck on a low tech world.
I think we are looking at a person with twenty required skills to make ammo for an M16...
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11-08-2017, 10:26 PM | #49 |
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It occurs to me that if you are going to make smokeless powder we've overlooked a critical feedstock - cellulose. It's not remotely easy to synthesize, which we neglect here on Earth because God already did all the ridiculously hard chemical engineering necessary to put together a commercially viable total synthesis from water and carbon dioxide using self reproducing nanoassemblers, but alien ecologies don't necessarily have a source of it.
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