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11-15-2021, 08:10 PM | #32 | |
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Hannibal Lecter, especially if met while he's on the run and operating under an alias. Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Possibly the most disturbed thing you'll ever encounter. The Yellow King from True Detective. Was there really something otherworldly going on or was it all imagination? Agent Richard Chance from To Live and Die in LA. Well before The Shield, this was the bad cop.
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11-16-2021, 03:25 PM | #33 | |
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It was beautifully written, and absolutely horrifying. As for Strickland, himself, he was more of the same "big picture/no compassion" villainy, and not nearly so interesting as either Jules-Pierre or Dresden. Strickland's greatest contribution to the series was to make Amos one of everybody's favoritest sci-fi characters in any story, in any medium, EVAR! :)
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11-17-2021, 09:31 AM | #34 | |
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Amos himself could make for an interesting villain. He seems to have a similar affliction to what the scientists inflicted on themselves, but has just enough of a conscience to feel it's better to be on a morally right side than a morally wrong one (the scientists don't consider morality to be a legitimate factor in decision making). The problem is, he himself only has an incredibly vague sense of right and wrong, so he tends to attach himself to someone who he considers to have a good understanding of that (Naomi initially, but Holden later; I only just started watching Season 5, so I don't know if he handles things differently there or not). The Expanse's writers seem to like to play with this a bit - the above scientists are sort of like "Amos, with his shriveled speck of conscience gone," while Chandra Wei (Murtry's second-in-command in Season 4) is basically "Amos, but attached to the wrong person."
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11-18-2021, 05:45 PM | #35 |
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One heroine who would make a terrifying villain is Flora Poste from "Cold Comfort Farm." "Cold Comfort Farm" has been described as a "Jane Austen heroine visits a episode of the Beverly Hillbillies." Mine you I'd much rather visit the Clampets than the Starkadders.
Still Flora Poste would be a terrifying foe. She's both devastatingly smart and gifted with Empathy , Intuition and scary high social skills. You won't see her attacks coming, even if you are a substance not delt with in the main syllabus.
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11-25-2021, 09:52 AM | #36 | |
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However a guy rather like him could make a good villain. Make him really be someone who smuggles slaves for border world barons for instance.
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11-25-2021, 06:22 PM | #37 |
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Agreed, the very things that make Simon Tam a skilled doctor and a good brother could, corrupted, make a nasty villain.
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11-25-2021, 10:41 PM | #38 |
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Simon proved adept at being a criminal mastermind when he planned their heist of the Alliance hospital. It really wouldn't take much to have him in an adversarial role.
A truly criminal Simon would have a handlebar mustache, though. He's a stickler for the classics. :)
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11-29-2021, 07:23 AM | #39 |
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Honestly, I think part of what made the Firefly characters so interesting is that many of them could probably be an absolute monster with the right motivation, and without making a conscious choice to be a decent person. I don't think Wash, Kaylee, and perhaps Inara have much darkness in them, but I could see them serving on an "evil" counterpart of the Serenity without much modification (Wash's primary motivation for serving is Zoe, Kaylee's is that she absolutely loves the ship - and the crew actually values her skills, rather than seeing her as just another pretty face - and Inara's presence is almost purely business, along with harboring some hidden feelings for Mal; I don't see any of that changing if the rest of the crew were outright villains, so long as they didn't act like Reavers or the like).
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11-29-2021, 01:40 PM | #40 |
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Simon Delicata, From the Modesty Blaise book "A Taste for Death" Simon Delicata is a giant who is inhumanly strong, impervious to pain and highly intelligent. Also quite sadistic. Short of a bullet to the head the only way to put him down was to cripple his limbs.
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