Mr. Bones

bob2cow · 06-06-2010, 08:39 PM

When you fight Mr.Bones it says if you do not defeat him loose a level. Is this before or after the die roll is resolved.

Andrew Hackard · 06-06-2010, 09:52 PM

Until you roll the dice, you don't know whether you've beaten him or not. So, after.

AMOE · 06-06-2010, 10:19 PM

unless he meant the escape roll.

Not defeating him, as Andrew said, requires your total combat strength (including dice rolls, if you have any) to be lower than Mr. Bones' (also including his own dice roll).

You would lose a level in this case, and STILL have to run away (just like in the normal version). If you fail to escape, you then get his bad stuff on top of that.

In case you're at level one, and cannot lose a level for not being able to beat him, I think you'd take 1 point of damage. I'm not sure if it's written on his card or not, but I'm pretty sure that that's what would happen.

Andrew Hackard · 06-07-2010, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AMOE

In case you're at level one, and cannot lose a level for not being able to beat him, I think you'd take 1 point of damage. I'm not sure if it's written on his card or not, but I'm pretty sure that that's what would happen.

It's not written on the card because it's written in the rules: if the Bad Stuff does not affect you, take a hit.

AMOE · 06-07-2010, 09:41 AM

I know that, but I meant about the "lose 2 levels" if you don't beat the monster, but manage to run away.

You'd normally take a hit due to failing to beat him, but, would you take another hit because the "lose 2 levels" condition would have no effect on a level 1?

Andrew Hackard · 06-07-2010, 10:19 AM

You take a hit if you cannot suffer the Bad Stuff. If you successfully Run Away, you do not suffer Bad Stuff and do not lose a hit. Any other effects are not part of the Bad Stuff and are not affected by this rule.

MunchkinMan · 06-07-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

You take a hit if you cannot suffer the Bad Stuff. If you successfully Run Away, you do not suffer Bad Stuff and do not lose a hit. Any other effects are not part of the Bad Stuff and are not affected by this rule.

Which means that you still suffer the hit per monster you always take for losing a combat, even before determining whether you Run Away or not, and whether any Bad Stuff you have to endure even affects you.

So, yes, AMOE, as is stated in the rules: If the Bad Stuff doesn't affect you, you take another hit.

Andrew Hackard · 06-07-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

So, yes, AMOE, as is stated in the rules: If the Bad Stuff doesn't affect you, you take another hit.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew what I meant, but it wasn't exactly what I typed.

MunchkinMan · 06-07-2010, 05:59 PM

No problem. I knew you'd answered the question, but I wasn't entirely sure if everyone would get that.

06-06-2010, 08:39 PM	#1
bob2cow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Calgary, AB	Mr. Bones When you fight Mr.Bones it says if you do not defeat him loose a level. Is this before or after the die roll is resolved. __________________ Just because i killed you and took your stuff doesn't mean you have to be mad!

06-06-2010, 09:52 PM	#2
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Mr. Bones Until you roll the dice, you don't know whether you've beaten him or not. So, after. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

06-06-2010, 10:19 PM	#3
AMOE Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Mr. Bones unless he meant the escape roll. Not defeating him, as Andrew said, requires your total combat strength (including dice rolls, if you have any) to be lower than Mr. Bones' (also including his own dice roll). You would lose a level in this case, and STILL have to run away (just like in the normal version). If you fail to escape, you then get his bad stuff on top of that. In case you're at level one, and cannot lose a level for not being able to beat him, I think you'd take 1 point of damage. I'm not sure if it's written on his card or not, but I'm pretty sure that that's what would happen. __________________ If anyone notices that I am wrong, then by all means, correct me.

06-07-2010, 09:41 AM	#5
AMOE Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Mr. Bones I know that, but I meant about the "lose 2 levels" if you don't beat the monster, but manage to run away. You'd normally take a hit due to failing to beat him, but, would you take another hit because the "lose 2 levels" condition would have no effect on a level 1? __________________ If anyone notices that I am wrong, then by all means, correct me.

06-07-2010, 10:19 AM	#6
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Mr. Bones You take a hit if you cannot suffer the Bad Stuff. If you successfully Run Away, you do not suffer Bad Stuff and do not lose a hit. Any other effects are not part of the Bad Stuff and are not affected by this rule. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

06-07-2010, 05:59 PM	#9
MunchkinMan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Macungie, PA	Re: Mr. Bones No problem. I knew you'd answered the question, but I wasn't entirely sure if everyone would get that. __________________ Erik D. Zane *Munchkin* NetRep -- munchkin@sjgames.com MiB #1029